civil war artifact ?

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what is it ?

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Cripes... that thing is big. No replies yet? Wierd...

I see a few, well - two stars on it. I have NO idea what that lead was for... too big for a soldier to carry around and use.

Strange.
 

It is probably a cannon ball, however, most civil war cannon balls were made of iron...could it be from another time period? (must have lost a little hearing digging that up ::) )

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A couple years ago I bought a "cannonball" off ebay and posted it on a Civil War relics site. It caused one heck of a commotion. Half said it was a real "cannonball" and half said it was an ore crushing ball. After I nearly brought down that entire forum we all finally decided to drop the issue. Later I found out it was indeed an ore ball and not a real Civil War cannonball.

Many many big balls made of both iron and lead have been made for many different purposes including "cannonballs."

I think it was Dixie Arms company that got into an awful mess back years ago for selling counterweights as "cannonballs." These balls even fooled the experts.

I'm certainly no expert on "cannonballs" but here are a few comments for whatever.

Most real "cannonballs" are iron, not lead. According to the 1861 US Ordnance Department specifications (view them online at http://www.civilwarartillery.com/shottables.htm ) the closest actual cannonball to yours weighs 32.4 pounds and is exactly 6.25-inches in diameter.

Actual cannonballs are as round as a ball-bearing. Some of them may show a small LINEAR mold-seam, but other than that, they have no bumps, no lumps, no flat spots, flat bands, no ridges. They're perfectly round, not sort of round.

The whole "ball game" is based upon the weight, size, and shape of your ball.

If your ball is 6.041 inches in diameter and about 30 pounds it could be a French 26-pounder. The French used a different system of weights and so 26-pounds of that era (1780) would be about 29.31 American pounds.

Interesting find!

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Ok, but where did the stars come from and why are they there?
 

Welcome to the forum from the UK.

Here my thoughts:

It looks like lead which has been countermarked for a reason.(no idea on reason, but might be a counter weight)

Not a cannon ball.

If you have found this in the ground & it were lost in the late 19th century it would be far more oxidized (whiter colour) for this reason I am guessing no older than 50 years old. No way is it over hundred years old unless you have very strange soil.

In conclusion - not Civil War.
 

The lead survives the Montana soil much better... some come out clean.

But I dont even think it looks round, if anything, more like a disk...

So... I ask... what shape is it?
 

Possibly a counter-weight for a beam scale? Is it a whole pound weight (10, 15, 20, etc)?
 

it is a half of sphere, and have found several size round bullets in this area. .50 or .55 caliper bullets.i will post more pics later. thanks for all replies
i know this is not a canon ball, it is to heavy for a solder to carry but not horse and buggy
 

Just a guess......Maybe ordinance supplied to the regiments so that bullets could be cast in the field. Flat on one side so as not to roll around during shipping. Stamp indicating the original caster.
 

that's along the lines of what i was thinking, but not sure
new info.
the diameter is 2 1/4 inches , for a total of 5 1/2 inches across,the weight is 12 lbs
i can count 4 stars , but there are parcial markings of other stars
it is bowl shaped
the location in Baltimore was not to far from the Shot Tower which made the round bullets buy dropping them from the top and hitting water below,and within a mile or two of Ft. McHenry
 

what about it being solidified lead left in the ladle? I have melted and poured lead for fishing sinkers and lead soldiers and sometimes you get done what you wanted to do and there is still lead left in the ladle, it cools and forms a half a sphere, when cool you can just knock it out of the ladle. since it was found with bullets, it could have been a ladle full that for some reason was not cast into the bullet mold. Just my two cents.
 

A plug from the unused liad in the ladle makes more sence than anything else I could have contributed.

Good Job.

Half sphere did the trick.

Waty to go half shell

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