chinese bowl?

[jerseyben]

I picked up this large Chinese bowl. Not exactly sure what it is or if it is worth anything. I was hoping you guys could help me out with this one, please.

All I can tell you is that it is very large and VERY heavy. My research led me to the "Qianlong" mark, but thats as far as I got.

 

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[Lost&Found]

Mark looks right 5 trident fork on last mark (lower left) vs 3 trident but you might want to post the pics on asianart.com forum.

http://www.asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=75628

Their are many pieces with Qianlong marks which are not of the period. With Chinese ceramics the mark is usually the last thing that I would look at in determining if it's period piece.

Some experts in the field are familiar with the calligraphy styles and able to determine the age of the mark from that.

 

[diggummup]

Here is your mark Ben- Antique Chinese Porcelain marks, Ming marks, Porcelain marks

77. Da Qing Qianlong Nian Zhi "Great Qing Qianlong Period Make". Gu Gong Fu Zhi (Palace Museum Replica Producation), Before 1990.

 

[Lost&Found]

There is a significant difference in the above mark. In the 3rd character, reading down from right to left, Qian. Notice that the box has a cross vs Bens' which has a horizontal line. There is variation in imperial marks but I would leave it up to experts in determining if it's from the period.

Here is what I've been using for reference.

http://www.gotheborg.com/qa/qianlongmark.shtml

 

[diggummup]

There is a significant difference in the above mark. In the 3rd character, reading down from right to left, Qian. Notice that the box has a cross vs Bens' which has a horizontal line. There is variation in imperial marks but I would leave it up to experts in determining if it's from the period.

Here is what I've been using for reference.

Q&A: Genuine Qianlong mark

Thanks for pointing that out. My good eye must be going bad. lol.

 

[jerseyben]

I dont expect the bowl to be an original piece. I was just hoping to determine what it is, as I assume it was copied off a known piece. I also wanted to know if it has any value?

 

[Lost&Found]

I collect Chinese porcelain and would not offhand discount it not being real. Most of the Chien Lung (Qianlong) pieces that I come across do not have the 5 tines.

Does the bottom of the footrim fell coarse or smooth?

If it is not original I would think that it would have decorative value if it 20th century. A little more if it were 19th century.

 

[jerseyben]

Large Chinese 18th C Qianlong Period Blue and White Porcelain Vase Marks AN491 | eBay

This has the SAME mark and is going for decent money.

 

[Lost&Found]

With the amount of fakes of Chinese ceramics now, especially since the boom in Chinese buyers, I avoid purchasing oriental items. IMO they are too risky to invest in.

In that ebay listing the seller said 18th century period mark. No where did he mention it's an 18th century piece.

If you ebay yours be careful how the ad is worded.

 

[diggummup]

I searched the completed listings for qianlong plate and qianlong bowl, I did not see another example of your piece in either. I think that is a good sign. I have seen similar patterns listed as "100 children".

 

[diggummup]

BTW- Look at the marks on the ones that have sold for real high dollar. Personally, I think your gonna need an expert to tell the difference.

 

[jerseyben]

Ok, normally I wouldnt bother with stuff like this because I almost always assume its a reproduction.

You guys have convinced me enough to at least get an expert opinion on this one.

 

[Beans]

Ok, normally I wouldnt bother with stuff like this because I almost always assume its a reproduction.

You guys have convinced me enough to at least get an expert opinion on this one.

Sounds like you are on a TV show....we have to get an expert to verify if it is real or not