CHEROKEE CACHE 1800S ??

[bellroundhead]

CHEROKEE CACHE 1800'S ??

HAVE HEARD TELL THAT THE CHEROKEE INDIANS HID GOLD ETC. WHEN THE TRAILS OF TEARS WAS TAKING PLACE . NOT TO FAMILIAR WITH THE HISTORY OF THE CHEROKEE OTHER THAN THEY WERE WRONGFULLY REMOVED FROM THIER HOMES. ANYONE BROADEN MY KNOWLEDGE OF THESE MYTHS OF HIDDEN GOLD ?? I HAVE RECENTLY STARTED RESEARCHING THIS GREAT TRIBE AND THE WAY OF LIFE THEY HAD . UNTIL LATELY I THOUGHT THEY LIVED IN TEEPEE'S , THEY ACTUALLY HAD L0G HOMES. REALLY INTERESTING TO ME . ANY INFO WELCOMED

 

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[CWnut]

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there are numerous tales of hidden cherokee silver mines interwoven with the mysterious Melungeon race of the appalachian mts. They had to get the silver from somewhere that they used to make jewelry. Also, to my knowledge, the Cherokee were the only tribe to create their own alphabet.

 

[lastleg]

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bellroundhead:

Cherokees were mining gold N. Car, Georgia before the gold rush to the
California gold fields. You will have to research this as I don't have notes
handy. Look up Russell Gulch near Denver. CO for info on Cherokee miners.
Also at Cherry Creek. CO.

 

[Curtis]

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The whole reason they were removed via the trail of tears is that they had addopted the white mans ways and were a lot more successful at business! they built some very fine homes and owned a lot of propertyand did the mining thing. That's how they came under the scrutiny of the whites wanting to get what they had...it still sickens me to think that Pres. Jackson did that to them even after Indians saved his bacon against the British!

There are some good tales about Cherokee and other Indian treasure in Jameson's book on Treasure the Appalachians.

 

[Salvor6]

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There was a lengthy discussion on this last year. One forum member actually found a hidden cache near the trail and posted a detailed map of the location of the trail through several states.

 

[lastleg]

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Salvor6:

Do you recall what the contents of the Cherokee cache were and how it was
determined to be of Cherokee origin?

 

[bellroundhead]

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thanks everyone for all the info , im new to the site and just learning how to navigate through the search engine.
seen a few pictures of a 5 generation cabin of the cherokees posted by 4-h that's really cool. good to see a authentic cabin such as that one . Helps to put the history into a better perspective.

 

[Salvor6]

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No I don't remember. Like I said that was about a year ago. I looked through the archives but couldn't find it. Might be under another topic.

 

[bigwater]

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I shouldn't even get started on this topic of conversation, but since it's so close to my heart I'll chime in just a bit. The Cherokee never valued gold for anything other than it's beauty until the white man began using it as a trading commodity. Once it became a commodity, the Cherokee realized this and adopted the practices of using it for trading as well. Rather than trading with the Cherokee, the White man kicked the Cherokee off of the land they had lived on since, well, as long as we can trace back... so that they wouldn't have to trade anything for the gold and they could just take the spoils of the Cherokee land, hense the Trail of Tears became. I'm very familiar with the history of this, because I live in Dahlonega, GA... the name of which is derived from the Cherokee word "Tahlonige" (spelling variations exist) which means "yellow money" or "golden metal". The Trail of Tears started right here, basically on the land I live on right now, and I'll never get over how the native people were treated here. I hope they did stash as much as they could take with them, leaving maps for the future generations to find it, because no matter how much they stashed, it could never equal what was stolen from them and how they were forced to suffer all those years ago.

And for what it's worth, I'm a white guy who's ancestors emmigrated from Germany and Ireland long after the Trail of Tears took place, it just saddens me that this is an actual part of the historical heritage in my area.

 

[GrayCloud]

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Thank's Curtis and Bigwater, It is nice to know that the truth is out there as to the way my ancestors were robbed and mistreated. We cannot live in the past, but we can learn from it.

 

[bigwater]

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Robbed and mistreated doesn't begin to describe what went on. It would have been much more humane to just put a bullet in their heads on the spot than to subject them to what they had to go through.

 

[GrayCloud]

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Sum a lot of it up in two words, no three words = Andrew Jackson & Greed.

 

[Curtis]

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I too am from German/Irish stock and they came over in the 1600s and early 1700s. One of my ancestors was the first white woman to marry an Indian in the Carolinas and another was the first white woman to be killed by them..not the same one....was told this by a professional genealogist going by ancestors in common with her husband. They were too poor to have been involved with the Trail of Tears. My blood boils when I read about the Trail and starvation/illness taking Innocent people and soldiers not helping out(I know there were some who did). I have a pretty cool device and would help any Indian tribe out if they couldn't find their lost mines/caches. This thing will find them just get me in the area.

 

[10claw]

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curtis, thanks for offering your services to those folks. would be great if you could find a large cave full of gold for them. i have been up there a couple of times and it is a beautiful place.=== tenclaw===

 

[bellroundhead]

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I too am from German/Irish stock and they came over in the 1600s and early 1700s. One of my ancestors was the first white woman to marry an Indian in the Carolinas and another was the first white woman to be killed by them..not the same one....was told this by a professional genealogist going by ancestors in common with her husband. They were too poor to have been involved with the Trail of Tears. My blood boils when I read about the Trail and starvation/illness taking Innocent people and soldiers not helping out(I know there were some who did). I have a pretty cool device and would help any Indian tribe out if they couldn't find their lost mines/caches. This thing will find them just get me in the area.

I am not after any kind of cache/mine ,i don't even have a detector . thinking about getting one when i get me another job.(layed off) i am a total begginer and hope you can point me in the right direction with this (device) you have for equipment. I don't really know what to look for in attempting this type search.

 

[Salvor6]

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Here is the thread I mentioned earlier: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,103040.0.html. It has a lot of good info, maps, leads, etc. Check it out.

 

[Curtis]

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Bell,

When you have an area researched and are very confident the target is with in a square mile let me know and we will work something out. Maybe we can get 10 claw to meet us.

 

[Curtis]

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Check this out! Wow! found at:
http://www.civilwarhome.com/cherokeecauses.htm


Declaration by the People of the Cherokee Nation of the Causes
Which Have Impelled Them to Unite Their Fortunes With Those of the
Confederate States of America.

When circumstances beyond their control compel one people to sever the ties which have long existed between them and another state or confederacy, and to contract new alliances and establish new relations for the security of their rights and liberties, it is fit that they should publicly declare the reasons by which their action is justified.
The Cherokee people had its origin in the South; its institutions are similar to those of the Southern States, and their interests identical with theirs. Long since it accepted the protection of the United States of America, contracted with them treaties of alliance and friendship, and allowed themselves to be to a great extent governed by their laws.
In peace and war they have been faithful to their engagements with the United States. With much of hardship and injustice to complain of, they resorted to no other means than solicitation and argument to obtain redress. Loyal and obedient to the laws and the stipulations of their treaties, they served under the flag of the United States, shared the common dangers, and were entitled to a share in the common glory, to gain which their blood was freely shed on the battlefield.
When the dissensions between the Southern and Northern States culminated in a separation of State after State from the Union they watched the progress of events with anxiety and consternation. While their institutions and the contiguity of their territory to the States of Arkansas, Texas, and Missouri made the cause of the seceding States necessarily their own cause, their treaties had been made with the United States, and they felt the utmost reluctance even in appearance to violate their engagements or set at naught the obligations of good faith.
Conscious that they were a people few in numbers compared with either of the contending parties, and that their country might with no considerable force be easily overrun and devastated and desolation and ruin be the result if they took up arms for either side, their authorities determined that no other course was consistent with the dictates of prudence or could secure the safety of their people and immunity from the horrors of a war waged by an invading enemy than a strict neutrality, and in this decision they were sustained by a majority of the nation.
That policy was accordingly adopted and faithfully adhered to. Early in the month of June of the present year the authorities of the nation declined to enter into negotiations for an alliance with the Confederate States, and protested against the occupation of the Cherokee country by their troops, or any other violation of their neutrality. No act was allowed that could be construed by the United States to be a violation of the faith of treaties.
But Providence rules the destinies of nations, and events, by inexorable necessity, overrule human resolutions. The number of the Confederate States has increased to eleven, and their Government is firmly established and consolidated. Maintaining in the field an army of 200,000 men, the war became for them but a succession of victories. Disclaiming any intention to invade the Northern States, they sought only to repel invaders from their own soil and to secure the right of governing themselves. They claimed only the privilege asserted by the Declaration of American Independence, and on which the right of <ar19_504> the Northern States themselves to self-government is founded, of altering their form of government when it became no longer tolerable and establishing new forms for the security of their liberties.
Throughout the Confederate States we saw this great revolution effected without violence or the suspension of the laws or the closing of the courts. The military power was nowhere placed above the civil authorities. None were seized and imprisoned at the mandate of arbitrary power. All division among the people disappeared, and the determination became unanimous that there should never again be any union with the Northern States. Almost as one man all who were able to bear arms rushed to the defense of an invaded country, and nowhere has it been found necessary to compel men to serve or to enlist mercenaries by the offer of extraordinary bounties.
But in the Northern States the Cherokee people saw with alarm a violated Constitution, all civil liberty put in peril, and all the rules of civilized warfare and the dictates of common humanity and decency unhesitatingly disregarded. In States which still adhered to the Union a military despotism has displaced the civil power and the laws became silent amid arms. Free speech and almost free thought became a crime. The right to the writ of habeas corpus, guaranteed by the Constitution, disappeared at the nod of a Secretary of State or a general of the lowest grade. The mandate of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court was set at naught by the military power, and this outrage on common right approved by a President sworn to support the Constitution. War on the largest scale was waged, and the immense bodies of troops called into the field in the absence of any law warranting it under the pretense of suppressing unlawful combination of men. The humanities of war, which even barbarians respect, were no longer thought worthy to be observed. Foreign mercenaries and the scum of cities and the inmates of prisons were enlisted and organized into regiments and brigades and sent into Southern States to aid in subjugating a people struggling for freedom, to burn, to plunder, and to commit the basest of outrages on women; while the heels of armed tyranny trod upon the necks of Maryland and Missouri, and men of the highest character and position were incarcerated upon suspicion and without process of law in jails, in forts, and in prison-ships, and even women were imprisoned by the arbitrary order of a President and Cabinet ministers; while the press ceased to be free, the publication of newspapers was suspended and their issues seized and destroyed; the officers and men taken prisoners in battle were allowed to remain in captivity by the refusal of their Government to consent to an exchange of prisoners; as they had left their dead on more than one field of battle that had witnessed their defeat to be buried and their wounded to be cared for by Southern hands.
Whatever causes the Cherokee people may have had in the past, to complain of some of the Southern States, they cannot but feel that their interests and their destiny are inseparably connected with those of the South. The war now raging is a war of Northern cupidity and fanaticism against the institution of African servitude; against the commercial freedom of the South, and against the political freedom of the States, and its objects are to annihilate the sovereignty of those States and utterly change the nature of the General Government.
The Cherokee people and their neighbors were warned before the war commenced that the first object of the party which now holds the powers of government of the United States would be to annul the institution of slavery in the whole Indian country, and make it what they term free territory and after a time a free State; and they have been also warned by the fate which has befallen those of their race in Kansas, Nebraska, and Oregon that at no distant day they too would be compelled to surrender their country at the demand of Northern rapacity, and be content with an extinct nationality, and with reserves of limited extent for individuals, of which their people would soon be despoiled by speculators, if not plundered unscrupulously by the State.
Urged by these considerations, the Cherokees, long divided in opinion, became unanimous, and like their brethren, the Creeks, Seminoles, Choctaws, and Chickasaws, determined, by the undivided voice of a General Convention of all the people, held at Tahlequah, on the 21st day of August, in the present year, to make common cause with the South and share its fortunes.
In now carrying this resolution into effect and consummating a treaty of alliance and friendship with the Confederate States of America the Cherokee people declares that it has been faithful and loyal to is engagements with the United States until, by placing its safety and even its national existence in imminent peril, those States have released them from those engagements.
Menaced by a great danger, they exercise the inalienable right of self-defense, and declare themselves a free people, independent of the Northern States of America, and at war with them by their own act. Obeying the dictates of prudence and providing for the general safety and welfare, confident of the rectitude of their intentions and true to the obligations of duty and honor, they accept the issue thus forced upon them, unite their fortunes now and forever with those of the Confederate States, and take up arms for the common cause, and with entire confidence in the justice of that cause and with a firm reliance upon Divine Providence, will resolutely abide the consequences.

Tahlequah, C. N., October 28, 1861.

THOMAS PEGG,
President National Committee.

JOSHUA ROSS,
Clerk National Committee.

Concurred.
LACY MOUSE,
Speaker of Council.

THOMAS B. WOLFE,
Clerk Council.

Approved.
JNO. ROSS.