Celestial Railroad(1889-1896) Jupiter, Florida

[TrippWrecked]

Hi, I am new to this forum and heard ya'll can help me out! I was metal detecting where the old railroad went through in Jupiter, FL. where I live. I found this attached bullet and am trying to figure out what time period this bullet is from. In the 1890's. the train conductor would stop the train and allow passengers to get off and shoot turkey. I was thinking this bullet could be from that time. If anyone can help identify, let me know!! Thank you!!

Tripp Wagner
Jupiter, FL

 

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[Mackaydon]

Welcome to Treasurenet !!
I can't help you with your question, but I can compliment you on the 1659 cob.
Was that from the 'Archangel' (1660)?
Don.....

 

[SD51]

Welcome to T Net Tripp. This site might be able to help you identify it...

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[TrippWrecked]

Welcome to Treasurenet !!
I can't help you with your question, but I can compliment you on the 1659 cob.
Was that from the 'Archangel' (1660)?
Don.....

Hi Don, yes! I live and grew up in Jupiter. This 4R Lima was from the Keeth Macintosh Estate. He was one of the original investors. It's one I'll be holding onto for a long time!

 

[TrippWrecked]

Welcome to T Net Tripp. This site might be able to help you identify it...

Welcome

Welcome to cartridge-corner.com. The home of your cartridge/ammunition Identification. Headstamp Guide on DVD/USB or now online.

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Thank you very much! I'll check this out now!

 

[gunsil]

They use shotguns to shoot turkeys, not rifles. We need diameter and length of the slug for caliber ID, preferably measured with a caliper.

 

[TrippWrecked]

They use shotguns to shoot turkeys, not rifles. We need diameter and length of the slug for caliber ID, preferably measured with a caliper.

Okay so the diameter is roughly .3785. Maybe it's a .38 caliber? Doesn't sound like it would be from the 1890's at that size. Thoughts?

 

[gunsil]

With the long nose on the slug it looks like a rifle slug rather than a pistol slug. Possibly from a 38-55 or a 38-40. Deer and larger game cartridges, especially the 38-55. More likely used by a local hunter for deer or even target practice. There are millions of old bullets in the ground, most from hunting and target practice. Both 38-55 and 38-40 were around in 1890 but they were used long after and a while before. Really impossible to date most of them since they were used so long. Over the years (60 or more) I have probably put over 5,000 slugs in the ground from target practice alone, and there are and have been millions of others who have done the same.

 

[vpnavy]

1st - Welcome Aboard! Take a look at Forum: Florida for information (i.e., clubs, etc.) directly related to your state.

2nd - I pulled this from another TN thread...

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[gunsil]

VP, Tripp's bullet is a modern type slug, posting CW bullets may just be confusing.

 

[Blak bart]

Hi, I am new to this forum and heard ya'll can help me out! I was metal detecting where the old railroad went through in Jupiter, FL. where I live. I found this attached bullet and am trying to figure out what time period this bullet is from. In the 1890's. the train conductor would stop the train and allow passengers to get off and shoot turkey. I was thinking this bullet could be from that time. If anyone can help identify, let me know!! Thank you!!































































Tripp Wagner































Jupiter, FL































Hello tripp nice to see you here on t-net. I follow you on instagram. I'm galleonhunter on instagram.

 

[dognose]

Interesting post.

 

[TrippWrecked]

With the long nose on the slug it looks like a rifle slug rather than a pistol slug. Possibly from a 38-55 or a 38-40. Deer and larger game cartridges, especially the 38-55. More likely used by a local hunter for deer or even target practice. There are millions of old bullets in the ground, most from hunting and target practice. Both 38-55 and 38-40 were around in 1890 but they were used long after and a while before. Really impossible to date most of them since they were used so long. Over the years (60 or more) I have probably put over 5,000 slugs in the ground from target practice alone, and there are and have been millions of others who have done the same.

Thanks for all that info! I did measure diameter and it was around .3775. I’d imagine that’s a .38?

 

[gunsil]

Thanks for all that info! I did measure diameter and it was around .3775. I’d imagine that’s a .38?

Both 38-40 and 38-55 are .38s. These were originally used in black powder rifles and the first number is the caliber and the second number is the number of grains of black powder. So a 38-40 is a .38 caliber bullet propelled by 40 grains of black powder. Modern smokeless powder was not universally used until 1898 and was unsafe in earlier black powder guns. Many early rifles meant for smokeless powder are so marked on the barrel. The 38-40 was used both in rifles and pistols but the 38-55 is a rifle only cartridge.

 

[nagant]

lots of states allowed rifles for turkey.