can you tell me what these are

[heathm]

i bought these from the pawn shop the darker color one is 8.5 g silver and the other is 12.0 silver. i know on the nicer peice that the cross signifies spanish colonial and the globes means its from the mexican coin strike foundary. do you know what they are?

 

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[Mackaydon]

Depending on the year, the prescribed weight of an 8-reales coin was between about 27 and 27.5 grams. They were mostly issued in denominations of 1/2, 1, 2 ,4 and 8 reales. Based on the weight of your coins, you can estimate what denominations of coins you have.
Don.......
PS: Sharper focus on your pics would help.

 

[heathm]

yeah im having problems with resizing the image. i posted an ad on craigslist to the coin people on there and it auto resized the pics and they look a lot better so if i can do that it would make a big difference

 

[traderoftreasures]

possibly reproduced chunks of silver. let us hope not.

 

[heathm]

well the corroded one i think is a shipwreck coin that lost its face to currents and sand. the other one i think could be a reproduction. but why would someone make a peice of silver from a design of a coin. im still trying to figure out what to call it. i talked to a local coin dealer and he said they did make melts back then besides striking coins so its getting interesting

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Are you sure they are silver? They do not look old and they do not look like shipwreck coins. Do you have a macro lens setting (flower icon) on your camera?

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

Trying to see if this works this way.

B

 

[kyphote]

resized and enhanced

 

[heathm]

u did a great job with the pictures. i have no clue how to do that lol. but the 8.5 gram peice is the one i think is a coin with a washed face because it is extremely flat on the backside. the 12.0 gram peice is a melt it has a couple spurs on the back and is rounded on the back side not perfect flat like the other one

 

[MilitaryCollector]

fakes, someone took the coins? and pressed them into a substance to make impression then poured metal into impression to make these. I'm guessing lead. I used to make stuff like this with melted lead as a kid. (use nitric acid, or testing kits to see if silver)

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

We need better pics. The first item looks like some recently melted alloy. It is not the correct shape for a cob or a coin. . The second item looks better but I cant recall ever seeing a cob worn clean on one side only.

I can help you heathm with your pics if you can find the flower icon setting.

Cobs were struck, not cast. Considering that they both came from the same shop, I would guess that we have 2 amateur cast, poor replica attempts. But we really need in focus pictures...