can you tell me anything about this gun ?

[fbjr]

I know it's a cap gun and it still works. There are no visible markings or writing on it. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Very cool. It reminds me of a pop-out belt buckle I had as a kid. As far as I remember you would force your stomach out to shoot lol. 8)

Bat Masterson Derringer Belt Gun Toy.

 

[fbjr]

wow, it looks just like it....now if I can just find the buckle

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Its listed in the top 1o most dangerous toys. I thought it was one of the coolest. Im not sure this is the same buckle that I had. It was a long time ago. I remember the creepy crawlers.
http://7akifadi.com/2008/05/02/most-dangerous-toys-of-all-time/

 

[One mans trash...]

The duffus who did the web site seems to think "operational" includes plastic bullets ejected by a spring in the cartridge. The Shootin' Shell line of Mattel cap guns. Clever move, since you were sure to lose the bullets and have to buy more. And for this one, you had to practice pushing your stomach out to activate the buckle to swing out and fire the derringer. The Fanner 50 was another, more conventional pistol from the line. In the days of open grill electric fans and VERY interesting chemistry sets, these didn't count as dangerous toys. Nor would they today. I had the derringer buckle, too, but we soon moved up to genuinely dangerous toys, like the ones we made that fired sharpened lengths of coathanger wire out of a tube scavenged from TV antennas and driven by a length of inner tube rubber. My tip for that one from personal experience - don't draw the rubber back so far that the sharp tip of the rod comes free of the back end of the tube. It goes through a hand real easy.

 

[truckinbutch]

wow, it looks just like it....now if I can just find the buckle

If it is the Mattel pistol I am the original owner of a buckle and belt that should fit your pistol .
That Fanner 50 was another awesome toy until I got big enough to get a Daisey lever action bb gun.......Progress in the humanization of mankind went downhill from there .

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

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[Tubecity]

If it is the Mattel pistol I am the original owner of a buckle and belt that should fit your pistol .
That Fanner 50 was another awesome toy until I got big enough to get a Daisey lever action bb gun.......
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I still have that same belt, buckle & holster & the pistol with the plastic buckhorn grips. One grip had
the hole in it so you press the plastic bullets into the casing. The belly derringer has been lost. But I
also went from this to the Daisy lever action 1864(?) BB gun. Wasn't it called the 'spittin image' ?

Butch

 

[truckinbutch]

If it is the Mattel pistol I am the original owner of a buckle and belt that should fit your pistol .
That Fanner 50 was another awesome toy until I got big enough to get a Daisey lever action bb gun.......
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I still have that same belt, buckle & holster & the pistol with the plastic buckhorn grips. One grip had
the hole in it so you press the plastic bullets into the casing. The belly derringer has been lost. But I
also went from this to the Daisy lever action 1864(?) BB gun. Wasn't it called the 'spittin image' ?

Butch

My Daisy was a Red Rider or mebbie that was the gloves with the fringes that I wore .
Funny how two of us have the belly buckle and belt but not the derringer .
Didja learn how to dump an entire tube of bbs into your mouth and then spit them into the loading hole for a quick reload when you were in a firefight with the neighbor kids ?
Carry a can of 3in1 oil in your pocket to give your gun a little more 'bump' on the long shots ?

 

[Tubecity]

Yea that BB gun probably had more spit in it than a harmonica. I forgot all about the oil, I remember
Daisy had a little oiler bottle for them. I remember one year I thought it was funny to sting the chickens
from a distance never thinking those BBs would penetrate. When my Dad cleaned those chickens, about
30 of them, some had BB's under the skin. I know I ate dinner that day standing up because my own
butt was the one that was stinging. I still have another double holster belt, looked like a black plastic
basket weave that used the same guns.

 

[Tank69]

lmao here yep I remember that mouth ful of BB's for a fast reload,do YOU remember how many YOU swallowed when you got popped in the butt by a buddy while tryin to reload ,come on dont lie if you shot em you did it to lol man that was a fun time get 7-8 of the neighborhood kids an your buddies an let the war begin ,just go until you ran outa BB's an couldnt find anymore on the ground or the welts got to painful,remember how all of you could walk down the side of the road an no body even noticed 7-8 10 year olds with BB guns .ahhhhhhhhhh those was the days.

 

[intimer]

some set-up! i too still have the rig but lost the derringer. ran into a md years ago that had found one, but wouldn't part with it. the pistol broke with the next generations use! i remember having a gold color lever action rifle too-almost lost my eye sight with that one!

i remember finding those grey projectiles in all sorts of places later throughout the years.

thanks for the memories!

mike

 

[Tubecity]

remember how all of you could walk down the side of the road an no body even noticed 7-8 10 year olds with BB guns .ahhhhhhhhhh those was the days.
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Yes they were. Kids could have fun & grow up as their parents wanted them to. Not anymore,
somewhere along the line someone decided they knew how to raise your kids better than you.
Today, 7 & 8 year old kids are being suspended for bringing GI Joes one inch plastic rifle to school.
Do they even sell guns & holsters for kids to play with today ? Remember we went from playing
cowboys to playing Army, with the plastic helmets & machine guns ?

 

[truckinbutch]

Shootin BBs at each other ? Never happened !!
I swore this faithfully to my parents when I came home one evening as an 8 year old with the left lens of my eyeglasses shot out by a BB .
It was an accidental ricochet while we were all target practicing that broke my glasses lense ...Yep .
I'm so glad that my parents spent the extra 35 cents to have the lenses of my new specs 'safety coated". That was big money in 1958 .
Otherwise I would have lost my left eye .......
The real deal was that there were 6 of us 'soldiers' in our hayloft 'fort' trying to repell 8 'Indians' mounted on ponies that kept charging by shooting at us on a dead run .
My cousin "Punk" was the most accurate of the mounted 'Indians' and I was assigned to take him out on the next charge cause I was the best rifle shot in the 'fort'. He had been pinking all of us .
I held my position to make a good left hand passing shot . "Punk" did the same on a shot from the back of a running pony .
We fired at the same time and he flopped off his pony with a BB stuck in his forehead dead center between his eyes just above the eyebrows .
I rolled on my back in the loft with a left eye full of glass schards . The safety coating had prevented the BB from penetrating my eye .
War was done for the day as we all tried to come up with a believable 'cover your butt' story .

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Reminds me that I have a piece of glass in my eye. It happened when I was a kid. The doctors say to leave it. I wont ever wear glass again. Only plastic lenses.

 

[intimer]

i wasn't wearing glasses and lucky it wasn't a 'pump'.

the 'hastily prepared story' went like this, "i fell on a stick while running in the woods!"

the real story! i stood up from behind the stump to say 'let's go home-or such'. (we had just swapped guns, it was my turn to be plummeted! i guess i realized it wasn't fun anymore because the daisy-lever action was much more powerful than the six-shooter i was using.) anyway, i caught a bb, right in the eye, with a blink! (almost sounds like catching it with your teeth! how unbelieveable!) i fell to my knees. my buddy 'the shooter' came to see 'the damage'! upon his inspection, the bb fell to the ground--honest!

the walk out of the woods was frantic worrying about the bb guns being confiscated!

the er doctor questioned why there wasn't any dirt or trash from the limb in or around my eye (see above 'the hastily prepared story!'). i remember lying on the table looking up at him repeating the fabricated story, he just mumbled--my parents just mumbled and i was sent home to see the eye doctor monday.

it was a saturday. later that day or early sunday there was increasing pain. i was admitted to the hospital for nine days for rest, no phone, no tv, few visitors. the pain was from bleeding behind the eye that could detach the retina. laser surgery was experimental in those days. i was super lucky the bleeding stopped and the swelling went away.

i had eye doctor appointments for years after that multiple times a year. thirty some odd years later while out to eat, my parents sitting across the table, i got the nerve to tell them i had lied. they non chalantly said in unisome "we know". so i guess my buddy told the truth! wow, i don't think i have ever let my kids get away with lying. gee, what's the damage done...!

hey, anyone remember the difference when sling shots began using rubber tubing instead of strips of inner tubes. oh well...that's another story.

i too, miss the days when dogs ran free, bikes got banged up from use, balls were patched and used til they wore out, gloves were re-laced, there were enough players to have two teams-in most sports, creek or lake water, we played in, was able to be consumed, forts were almost real...and on and on!

again, thanks for the memories!

mike

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

My mother used to sew my socks. We found our baseballs in the wooded area behind the outfield. There were rarely enough gloves, so we shared with the opposing team. We just dropped our glove on the third out. We used to steal a can of soup just so we could build a campfire in the woods to heat it up. We used to play in the abandoned coal mines...

 

[truckinbutch]

We are having fun sharing memories and aren't being fair to the fellow that started the thread trying to identify a cap gun .
I'm going to start a new topic down on Everything Else for all of us to share our misspent
youths ....

 

[Tnmountains]

We are having fun sharing memories and aren't being fair to the fellow that started the thread trying to identify a cap gun .
I'm going to start a new topic down on Everything Else for us to share all of us to share our misspent
youths ....

No problem story removed Thought I saw a green check?

 

[intimer]

there was a slot in the grip to attach it to a hinge where it would swing out. then there was a catch device of sorts at the barrel end, but not on the derringer. if i remember it latched the barrel end. when the spring was activated by the activator (the belly bulge). the latch at the barrel end released letting it swing out on the hinge and fire the projectile. i can't remember how it was loaded.

but to id yours for sure the tn guys can be more specific. maybe a picture would help of the grip back edge.


mike