Can anyone tell me what these are?

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The button is a great seal button 1909 and still in use today
 

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If you rotate item 2 90 degrees to the right it is a hobo or clown head. Need a few more pics to know what it was used for.

DCMatt
 

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Thx anything on the other two ?

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The square item that opens is a cosmetic compact. Probably had a mirror in it at one time.
-MM-
 

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Thx anything on the other two ?

Hey red elf,

Welcome to this place & thanks for showing us your finds.

What are the dimensions, and how's the other side look? What material do you think it is?

Three_quarter_length_portrait,_soldier_with_bass_drum,_holding_sticks._Cased_tintype,_gutta_perc.jpg
 

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Redelf12, first, welcome to TreaureNet and its "What-Is-It" forum, the best place on the 'net for getting unknown objects CORRECTLY identified.

The Great Seal of the United States was adopted for use on US Army "general service" buttons in 1902. The first version of those Great Seal buttons (1902-1909) did not have a raised rim -- which yours has. They've had the rim from 1910 to the present. But your button's backmark (a maker's/dealer's mark) saying "R. Liebmann Mfg. Co. Newark NJ" allows us to date your button from around 1916 through World War One and perhaps a bit later. The Rudolph Liebmann Manufacturing Company is listed as a seller of "metal and celluloid dress buttons" in the 1916 issue of "Style."

Furthermore, from World War One through 1923, the Great Seal buttons were manufactured with a "black finish" so they wouldn't give away a hidden soldier's position. Your button shows traces of the "black finish" in the emblem's recessed areas, where it didn't wear off.

So, your button could only have been made sometime between approximately 1916 and 1923. However, the manufacture of Army buttons dropped radically after the end of World War One, because there were so many "surplus" ones left over... so your button was most likely made between 1916 and 1918.
 

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Redelf12, first, welcome to TreaureNet and its "What-Is-It" forum, the best place on the 'net for getting unknown objects CORRECLY identified. The Great Seal of the United States was adopted for use on US Army "general service" buttons in 1903. The first version of those Great Seal buttons (1902-1909) did not have a raised rim -- which yours has. They've had the rim from 1910 to the present. But your button's backmark (a maker's/dealer's mark) saying "R. Liebmann Mfg. Xo. Newark NJ" allows us to date your button from around 1916 through World War One and perhaps a bit later. The Rudolph Liebmann Manufacturing Company is listed as a seller of "metal and celluloid dress buttons" in the 1916 issue of "Style." Furthermore, from World War One through 1923, the Great Seal buttons were manufactured with a "black finish" so they wouldn't give away a hidden soldier's position. Your button shows traces of the "black finish" in the emblem's recessed areas, where it didn't wear off. So, your button could only have been made sometime between approximately 1916 and 1923. However, the manufacture of Army buttons dropped radically after the end of World War One, because there were so many "surplus" ones left over... so your button was most likely made between 1916 and 1918.

Thanks for all the info really it helps out a lot :-) do you know anything on the little head ?

Sent from my iPhone from redelf12
 

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