Can anyone tell me if this is a Louisiana Civil War Buckle?
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The style looks right. Do a precise measurement of it. Let us know. Books are out there with the precise measurements. Looks like the two holes were meant for attachment, but it should have had something on the back if it was used as a belt buckle Did you dig it?
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I wouldn't touch those plates with a ten foot pole.
You might want to spend your money on some books, to educate yourself before you buy things you know nothing about.
Sydney Kerksis Plates and buckles of the American military 1795-1874 is a good start.
You can find it on ebay, used for around 40 dollars.
You might want to spend your money on some books, to educate yourself before you buy things you know nothing about.
Sydney Kerksis Plates and buckles of the American military 1795-1874 is a good start.
You can find it on ebay, used for around 40 dollars.
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The holes on the ends are kind of disconcerting. They look more like some sort of commemorative piece made after the war but I am not an expert. However I would be highly suspicious
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The Palm tree one looks fake with the "CSA" and date on it. But ive heard of morons taking old artifacts like this and putting dates and names and stuff like that to sell it.
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The drill holes and lack of attachment paws are disconcerting...wouldn't buy anything confederate unless you really know the details.
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These plates are above my knowledge .
It's Great to see that you are getting advice before buying.
IMO SC & LA plates of that type (even with field fix? ) holes would be pricey.
My club is Having it'a 41st Annual Civil War Show, Ill look for similar examples. 'JIC'
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How much does it weigh? There is a modern reproduction struck from the original die on the market but it is much heavier than the real thing. The real Louisiana buckle is die stamped, weighs about 1.5 ounces and has dimensions of 2.26x3.30"s or 58x84 millimeters. I think the one you are looking at is a reproduction.
As for the palm tree(?) one, there is nothing even close to it in S. Kerksis' book on plates and buckles.
You don't say how much they are but if they are cheap, you know they are fantasy items and are still interested in them I say go ahead. I bought a Georgia buckle many years ago that I knew was a copy but I liked it so I got it.
As for the palm tree(?) one, there is nothing even close to it in S. Kerksis' book on plates and buckles.
You don't say how much they are but if they are cheap, you know they are fantasy items and are still interested in them I say go ahead. I bought a Georgia buckle many years ago that I knew was a copy but I liked it so I got it.
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It's on auction on eBay I think it's at $163 so far for both. I just appreciate before I bid I can ask TNET and get opinions and straight facts.
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If you want authentic pieces you need to buy from a trusted dealer like this one. There are others but this will give you an idea of whats out there and how much the real thing is valued at.
Relicman Sales Catalog, Plates, Page1.
Relicman Sales Catalog, Plates, Page1.
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Both of them are what civil war collectors & dealers call "Fantasy" plates, because none exactly like them was made before or during the civil war. Somebody used an Original to make a mold impression for casting the plate's front, whereas the back is totally incorrect for a civil war Military plate. Also, absoluely no genuine Southern State plates were marked CSA on the back, nor had a year-date marked on the back. Fantasy plates similar to these turn up on Ebay every so often... and it's dismaying to see people pay hundreds of dolalrs for these fakes.
A better, far more up-to-date book on civl war belt plates is "American Military Belt Plates" by O'Donnell & Campbell. It sells for only about $10 more than the very old and obsolete Kerksis buckle-book. For strictly Confederate plates, get "Confederate Buckles & Plates" by Mullinax.
A better, far more up-to-date book on civl war belt plates is "American Military Belt Plates" by O'Donnell & Campbell. It sells for only about $10 more than the very old and obsolete Kerksis buckle-book. For strictly Confederate plates, get "Confederate Buckles & Plates" by Mullinax.
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