Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFKS?

[Arogers]

Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFK'S?

I'm thinking I saw some that were considered more rare or for noncirculation only. Can anyone explain this to me? thanks

 

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[ivan salis]

Re: Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFK'S?

silver proof on the jfk's--collecters only

 

[schramm]

Re: Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFK'S?

I'm thinking I saw some that were considered more rare or for noncirculation only. Can anyone explain this to me? thanks

Some people on here keep these(02-present halves & sacs) because they believe they will have some future value above face.They supposedly weren't made for circulation but they turn up all time.

I think the mint makes fewer of them so collectors buy them at a premium from the mint and then after a year(or less)They release all the unsold halves and sacs to the banks and then they end up in boxes.The mint sells the halves for $.65 each,not sure on the sacs.

I find so many of them all the time that I quit holding on to them because they were tying up to much of my searching cash.I realized that they are not rare at all or hard to come by and if you search for a while you will find the same thing(depending on what part of the country you hunt),some hunters in certain areas claim to not find very many of them,but I have found thousands in the last 5 years,at one point I had almost $2,000 face value worth of halves and over $1,000 sacs(02-present) and when I called all the coin dealers around me and looked online and realized that nobody wanted to pay more than face for them,I just released them back into "Circulation".

You see,If you think about it no Half dollar really circulates anymore and hasn't for many years.The only people who spend them are CRH's or someone who saved them for years and spends etc..

When we spend one or many halves at a store they put them aside or in a separate slot in the register,if they actually circulated they would hand them out in change to their customers like they do with quarters etc.They DON'T.

If anybody collects Sacs and has a hard time finding 02-present just buy a couple boxes of dollar coins and you will find most of the dates/mintmarks.Search several boxes and you will likely find all of them.

They claim they weren't minted for circulation,yet I get them often in post office stamp machines .

So,basically whether or not to save them depends largely on how much liquid cash you have that you can tie up in halves worth face value and how long you are willing to hold on to them in HOPES that someday they will be worth something more than face value.

Hope this gives you some perspective on the subject .

 

[Arogers]

Re: Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFK'S?

Are the bicentennials what people are calling '76's? If so, how do you tell if it is a silver proof?

 

[schramm]

Re: Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFK'S?

Are the bicentennials what people are calling '76's? If so, how do you tell if it is a silver proof?

Yeah,if someone is calling a half a "76" it is a bicentennial(Could also be for a quarter & dollar too).

The way to tell if it's a silver proof is it must have an "S" mint mark and have no copper on the edge and it will also have the same ring that a 40% half makes when dropped on a surface.

Circulated/damaged proofs are only worth face value,but if you find a silver 76 then it's obviously worth keeping just for the silver content.There are also silver proofs made from '92-present,but they are 90% silver,you will also know these when you see one because of the white,copper free edge.

CU-NI proofs are fairly common(approx 1 per every $500 searched) and since they are damaged,no dealer will buy them from you,since there is no market for them.

I say fairly common because I find them a lot more frequently than 40%er's and I rarely find a 90%er anymore .

 

[Arogers]

Re: Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFK'S?

Are the bicentennials what people are calling '76's? If so, how do you tell if it is a silver proof?

Yeah,if someone is calling a half a "76" it is a bicentennial(Could also be for a quarter & dollar too).

The way to tell if it's a silver proof is it must have an "S" mint mark and have no copper on the edge and it will also have the same ring that a 40% half makes when dropped on a surface.

Circulated/damaged proofs are only worth face value,but if you find a silver 76 then it's obviously worth keeping just for the silver content.There are also silver proofs made from '92-present,but they are 90% silver,you will also know these when you see one because of the white,copper free edge.

CU-NI proofs are fairly common(approx 1 per every $500 searched) and since they are damaged,no dealer will buy them from you,since there is no market for them.

I say fairly common because I find them a lot more frequently than 40%er's and I rarely find a 90%er anymore .

Thanks. Is holding them in stacks and looking at the ends the fastest way to determine if they are silver? I bought my first stack today and used that way then went through one by one after. It was accurate (even though I only round one). I also found a gold one. Is that worth anything?

Also, how do you guys and gals get them rolled? I can't take it to my bank and have them count it. The tellers are hateful about counting change. Will other banks count them without me being an actual customer?

 

[schramm]

Re: Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFK'S?

Are the bicentennials what people are calling '76's? If so, how do you tell if it is a silver proof?

Yeah,if someone is calling a half a "76" it is a bicentennial(Could also be for a quarter & dollar too).

The way to tell if it's a silver proof is it must have an "S" mint mark and have no copper on the edge and it will also have the same ring that a 40% half makes when dropped on a surface.

Circulated/damaged proofs are only worth face value,but if you find a silver 76 then it's obviously worth keeping just for the silver content.There are also silver proofs made from '92-present,but they are 90% silver,you will also know these when you see one because of the white,copper free edge.

CU-NI proofs are fairly common(approx 1 per every $500 searched) and since they are damaged,no dealer will buy them from you,since there is no market for them.

I say fairly common because I find them a lot more frequently than 40%er's and I rarely find a 90%er anymore .

Thanks. Is holding them in stacks and looking at the ends the fastest way to determine if they are silver? I bought my first stack today and used that way then went through one by one after. It was accurate (even though I only round one). I also found a gold one. Is that worth anything?

Also, how do you guys and gals get them rolled? I can't take it to my bank and have them count it. The tellers are hateful about counting change. Will other banks count them without me being an actual customer?

Yes,holding a stack in your hand and looking at the edges is the quickest way to pull the silver and discard the rejects.I have never missed one yet by looking at the edges and when I go to re-roll them I can tell by the sound they make when hitting each other as they drop into the roll if one should accidentally slip by(very obvious sound).As I said yesterday about the newer Kennedy's and their lack of value above face,if you realize this as well than you don't have to waste your time looking at every single date .

The gold '71 you found is a cool novelty and doesn't hurt to keep it,but as far as value over face-no.You could put it in your kids piggy bank and they will think it's cool when they break it open years down the road .Might get them interested in coin collecting.

I can understand you being discouraged if you found only 1 40%er out of $300 worth,but I find less than that these days now with so many hunters in my area .If you found this site and read all the huge finds located by a lucky FEW on here and thought it was like that all over,well then your in for a rude awakening should you decide to do this hardcore).I have been doing this for over 17 years and have seen the sharp decline over the last 5+ years especially.Too many people doing it and not enough supply to replenish the boxes.

As far as getting the coin rolled,you roll it yourself and disperse it to MANY different banks,a little at a time(they get mad all over) until your out and then start the process over again.

However if you are lucky enough to live in area with banks who understand what customer service means,then you will find numerous counting machines all over your city.That's how the people on here are able to go through such large quantities of boxes.

In my area there are only a few machines and none are self serve and you have to pay a fee even if you are a customer .

Will other banks count them if you are not a customer?In my experience NO,however some on here actually get boxes ordered(week after week) without being a customer.And I think some of them dump at banks where they are not a customer.SO it depends on your luck when you walk in...

 

[Arogers]

Re: Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFK'S?

Thanks a lot man. I thought of rolling them myself, so I may do that. Can you just buy the rolls at like Walmart?

I'm not really too discouraged especially since I've seen a lot of people getting dry boxes. I kinda got spoiled when I decided to start looking about a week ago and found 4x 40% and 1x 90% in the spare bin on the counter at work. You think if I took like 10 rolls to diff banks and got $100 bill for each they would care?

I'm thinking of only opening 1 box a week for the first while. I am young, so I don't have the funds to open 5-10 boxes a week like some of you! lol

 

[Scott (Upstate NY)]

Re: Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFK'S?

My understanding is that 2001+ halves are not worth much unless you find them in their original fed mint wrappers-usually blue striped

 

[cyberdan]

Re: Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFK'S?

Can you just buy the rolls at like Walmart?

You get them free at the bank. Some banks have boxes out on the table others just need to be asked.

I was taking so much I felt guilty and bought some from BLOCK after that two banks told me they would rather have me not roll them and bring them back in $500 bags. (saves 1-2 hours a week now not having to roll them )

I will be more than happy to sell a box.

 

[GMan00001]

Re: Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFK'S?

Yes,holding a stack in your hand and looking at the edges is the quickest way to pull the silver and discard the rejects.I have never missed one yet by looking at the edges and when I go to re-roll them I can tell by the sound they make when hitting each other as they drop into the roll if one should accidentally slip by(very obvious sound).As I said yesterday about the newer Kennedy's and their lack of value above face,if you realize this as well than you don't have to waste your time looking at every single date .

You forgot to mention one other portion of coin collecting that some people do and that is error collecting. A lot (some?) of people look at the dates to pick out the ones in which there could be double dies, missing initials, etc as well. Those require you to look at the dates to pick them out.

Personally, I save the post-2001 halves and post-2002 sacs and any circulated proofs. Even if they are worth much if anything over face, I am hoping that I may be able to use them for trades at a future date if nothing else. That and I am trying to get at least one of each as well.

 

[schramm]

Re: Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFK'S?

I did leave out checking for errors,but mainly because I don't do it much and I was under the impression that he was solely looking for silver and wondering if the later halves were "worth" saving.

I have tried looking for these errors and,either have really bad luck at spotting them or just haven't come across any yet.But I do look for them sometimes/depending on mood and time available .

How many of the '02-'07 have you found so far?

Not just in 2007 but in the last 5 years?I suppose if you don't find that many and only keep one of each year than it can't hurt to do that.

I just happen to be in an area where they turn all the time(I thought it was the same everywhere).Goldinmypan is a bit north of me and he just found 66 in a single box!That is along the lines of what I would find when I used to order boxes,so it doesn't surprise me that they are still turning up in large quantities and will continue for years.(I see no end as no one around here saves them)because they have no additional collector value,except maybe to a person who needs one to fill a hole in their book.

The dealers sell them for a slight premium($.60-$.75),but none of them will buy them at all from people who walk in.

 

[GMan00001]

Re: Can anyone tell me about newer Sacajeweas and JFK'S?

How many of the '02-'07 have you found so far?

I have found 100 in 66742 half dollars which is only a little more than 1 per box.

Not just in 2007 but in the last 5 years?I suppose if you don't find that many and only keep one of each year than it can't hurt to do that.

Actually my collection is a roll collection so a roll of each year and mintmark instead of the one previously mentioned, though I do try to start with 1 of each. And I didn't really concentrate on half dollars much until near the end of last year since I rarely found silver prior to that in the ones I had searched.... I switched strategies around then and realized that my issue was the bank I had been buying half dollars from were mainly searched. I occasionally still try them and if I find 1 - 40% per pox it was a good box, though I do frequently find a higher percentage of NIFC post-2001s in those boxes.