Can anyone identify this point?

[thehunter123]

Hey y'all. Just recently found this sweet point in the mountains of NC. Can anyone tell me the type and time period? Thanks!

 

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[quito]

Nice one! Is the base ground? Looks like it.

 

[thehunter123]

I believe it is. The base is incredibly smooth. Can't imagine a break being that smooth. Any ideas on the type?

 

[NCPeaches]

Look at the following links and see if it looks like these, scroll to the bottom pics. Gunthersville Barbed Projectile Point or Greeneville Projectile Point

 

[thehunter123]

Greenville looks right on the money. Thanks!

 

[Trezurehunter]

Cant help with the ID, but its a great looking point.

 

[Charl]

I can see a cross section at the base. Which would seem to mean it's broken at the base. Bases are usually thinned, and not just left thick like that. So my guess is it's a distal fragment of a point. Might be 95% there, but still missing some of the base.....

 

[rock]

Yes its a shame the very end is missing. Very hard to give a proper I.D. without it but still frame worthy.

 

[quito]

There is a hint of fluting. Looks paleo to me anyway. The form of this piece reminds me of a point I have that author Daniel Fox called an un-fluted Clovis, or Milnesand point I believe.

 

[monsterrack]

The base is snapped and I'm going to say water worn. Great find

 

[Bow Only]

I see this point entirely different than you guys are seeing it. I could be wrong, but I've held a few points in my day. The base of the point is on the left end in the 1st picture and the right side of the point is a snap break and the tip is missing. It is not a paleo but rather a broken point. It's still a nice find.

 

[rock]

I see this point entirely different than you guys are seeing it. I could be wrong, but I've held a few points in my day. The base of the point is on the left end in the 1st picture and the right side of the point is a snap break and the tip is missing. It is not a paleo but rather a broken point. It's still a nice find.

ding ding you are correct and that being said I say Adena knife.

 

[quito]

I've never seen a base re-sharpened like that. I think you guys have it backwards.

also, The fractures on both side of what you are calling the broken tip don't indicate that at all to me.

 

[thehunter123]

Thank y'all for all the responses. Quick question. I've zoomed in the tip (or possibly the base) from the first picture. Which is more likely to exhibit such a small, precise flaking pattern? A base or a tip?

 

[NCPeaches]

Thank y'all for all the responses. Quick question. I've zoomed in the tip (or possibly the base) from the first picture. Which is more likely to exhibit such a small, precise flaking pattern? A base or a tip?

Normally a tip has that type of flaking pattern.

 

[old digger]

My viewpoint of your item suggests that the base has been broken, and it appears to be somewhat water worn. My assumption is that it is unfinished paleo type point. The tip shows signs of fine flaking, but the base end still has large primary flaking, thus I would say that the base broke in the process of flaking and the knapper gave up on it.

 

[Bow Only]

I've never seen a base re-sharpened like that. I think you guys have it backwards.

also, The fractures on both side of what you are calling the broken tip don't indicate that at all to me.

Normally a tip has that type of flaking pattern.

I can agree with both of you. From the latest close up pic, here is what I'm seeing. I see a broken blade where the left end (what I called the base) has been reworked. Perhaps when he broke the blade, he tried to salvage the point by sharpening the base to use as a cutting tool. When a Native American resharpened a point, they resharpened the length of the point but did not resharpen from the lashings to the base of the point (where it was attached). This point is only showing a reworking only under where the lashings would have been and that makes a re-salvaged point a possibility. He basically flipped the point around and wanted to use the base as the tip. I have seen that happen before. Another possibility that is gaining momentum with me is that he broke the point during manufacture and started to flip the point around but did not finish working the point.

It does not have paleo style flaking.

 

[David Ray]

I found this one last week in North-central Florida. Tips missing and base is snapped also. I was thinking a Stanfield which is transitional paleo to early archaic because of the flaking and form.