Can anyone ID this button? Floral, 2 piece, still has thread.

[DocBeav]

Found this while out in the water today (http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/today-s-finds/415810-silver-gold-mit-1932-class-ring-walking-1-2-cool-button.html). No idea about how old it may be but it is made of 2 pieces. The center piece is copper and still has remnants of the thread still in it and the main piece has a floral design but not sure if it's pewter or silver. The reverse also had a design as well. Does anyone recognize this one? Found it in knee deep water in the same area as a walking liberty 1/2 and a 1932 MIT class ring. This looks like it might be older and I'm hoping someone here can tell me about it.


Update: Someone on another site said it is a "tudor rose" type of button and while there ate 1000's of pictures of examples, I can't find any that match this one.

 

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[DocBeav]

Anyone?

 

[mindcrime1988]

I can't help you as far as identification and I'm not a button expert by any means but usually one piece buttons are your oldest ones. If yours is a two piece then it may only go back to the 1800s, I think. To me your button does not seem to be military but that is strictly a guess. I just do not see why something so ornate would be on a military uniform. But either way it is a cool looking button. I hope you are able to find out more about it.

 

[DocBeav]

I can't help you as far as identification and I'm not a button expert by any means but usually one piece buttons are your oldest ones. If yours is a two piece then it may only go back to the 1800s, I think. To me your button does not seem to be military but that is strictly a guess. I just do not see why something so ornate would be on a military uniform. But either way it is a cool looking button. I hope you are able to find out more about it.

Thanks mindcrime1988....It is tech. a 2 piece but the main part is solid and looks to be cast. The second part is just a little copper ball that mounted in the center that the thread ran through (and still has some in it). I wouldn't really think military either, too ornate like you said, but it's cool. I hope someone comes along later who can tell us more. Have to do some more research on it and another button (I think) I found that was pretty trashed.