Can anyone help me ID this?

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Madzen23

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Jul 24, 2014
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I'm hoping with all the experience in this forum I can get an ID on this find. I'm in Southern Massachusetts so I get a wide range of stuff. My gut says is Colonial, but I honestly have no idea! Any thoughts would be much appreciated :icon_scratch: It has a 26/27mm diameter.

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I would suggest soaking it in olive oil for a couple months and see if you can pull any detail. I did not see very much in the enlarged photos.
 

I'll get it in there right away. I can make out some small details that are tough to see in the straight on images.

Thanks for looking!
 

a set of wheels off a ol toy car?! lol i have no idea man, too hard to tell. Some kinda coin probably is about all i can say
 

If someone put a gun to my head and said choose, I'd say its probably a flowing hair US Largie.

But that's based on very little to work with. (your 2nd photo, rotated 100degrees CCW, and enhanced)

You can see a hint of what may be a date at the bottom.

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I agree with owk it does look like a flowing hair Largie. That's a great find if that's what it is!
 

I don't see the Flowing hair, But the gun pointed at my head makes me say

1800's (looking Left) c1840's Large

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Sorry "Almost " embarrassed to post this drawing,
but only "Almost" :tongue3:

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jeff of pa said:
I don't see the Flowing hair, But the gun pointed at my head makes me say 1800's (looking Left) c1840's Large <img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1031290"/> <img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1031291"/> <img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1031292"/> Sorry "Almost " embarrassed to post this drawing, but only "Almost" :tongue3: <img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1031293"/><img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1031294"/>
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Jeff are you a professional artist? :-) lol
 

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I hope you can get some details from your find. I would not even venture a guess because I honestly see no details at all from your pics. It does have the correct diameter to be a Flowing Hair....can you give a weight in grams? Good luck!
 

Very hard to say, might have to clean it, olive oil might make it darker, of course if it were valuable any cleaning decreases the value.
Your call as to what you want to do?
Great find, congrats!
 

One thing I believe (others might disagree) that looks to me to have detail it is just crusted with dirt.
 

Does it seem extra thin compared to a normal large cent? That was my only clue to what I might have when I dug a colonial last year. I mentioned that particular thing to a few people "in the know" and they all said "it's probably a King George". I did the olive oil soak for a couple of months and could see the faintest of details, and I sketched out a rough version (similar in Picasso-ness to Jeff's drawing above) in pencil to see if anybody could ID it on here and I got a positive ID within about 10 minutes.
 

Or hot peroxide. Don't count out the hot peroxide.
 

You could have found out what it is within a half hour had you used peroxide, actually even after a hour hour in olive oil and some good use of qtips enough detail would show on this coin to ID it, since it appears to have just mostly a crudded over coating, but there is also some corrosion. Once a copper is put in oil, peroxide will not remove the crud unless the oil is removed, which is hard to do..... Don't worry about value, doubt it has anything significant due to the condition. Soaking in olive oil for a long time will remove the crud but why wait for so long.... Flowing Hair term use is not proper usage, if the posters are talking about Draped Bust variety. Flowing Hair type is only a 1793 type of Large Cent. For additional help in IDing in the future on crudded over coins, weight in grams or grains helps and also if it is a thin or thick planchet, so perhaps a edge shot of the coin helps when weight is not possible due to no scale.

Added: Since you are in Mass, I think the appearance does not look like a Coronet type Large Cent, they almost never look that bad and usually show more of a raised rim, so most likely an earlier year Large Cent or Colonial, but lean towards Draped Bust. (But I see no details)

After looking at the photo a bit more, it is very worn down and I believe very little detail might be left, so my advice would be to take a wet qtip, either peroxide wet or olive oil and gently work the area where on your first photo it appears to have letters or numbers at 11-1 oclock position, possibly an S or 5 and other letter or number next to it. That might be enough to at least know what it is. Try the wet qtip on any other area where you in person can possibly see any details, gently working the qtip over such areas, but keep the qtip very wet while doing so and do not rub so hard as to remove the detail, since it just could be corroded detail that is left which would rub off if you are too harsh..........
 

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You guys are good, I just can't see the details or have the knowledge about coins like you guys do.

Jeff of PA....your about one step away from cutting your ear off ! (Icrackmeup)
 

Thanks everyone! You've given even more insight than I expected. I immediately placed it into olive oil given the advice and coins condition, so I'll have to stick to that method at this point. I'll give it some time in there and work it gently with a q-tip and see if I can get some improved detail out of it. I'll also keep you posted if anything improves. I've just started working this field so hopefully it produces some more with better detail.

As for the weight, it comes in at 5.2grams.
 

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