Camel Button Civil War era??

[MonkeyBoy]

Here is a button I am investigating.. the story is these were associated with the Camel troops out west prior to the Civil War and the USG defunding the Camel Soldiers. Anybody have any info of this?? Back pics coming soon

MB

Button is 18 - 20MM

 

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[Felinepeachy]

Does this help help?

http://camelsnose.wordpress.com/200...the-desert-legacy-of-the-us-army-camel-corps/

 

[MonkeyBoy]

Does this help help?

http://camelsnose.wordpress.com/200...the-desert-legacy-of-the-us-army-camel-corps/

Thanks, read up on the "Camel Corps" but never found references to any uniform regs.. esp buttons. I think this is really just a good story to go along with the buttons but you never know.

Thanks,
MB

 

[Lucas]

Wrong camel to have pyramids in the background.

 

[Bramblefind]

When I first saw it I thought - Victorian Picture Button. I've looked for a match and I have found similar themes - mideast, camels.. but not that exact button.

The info about the Camel Corps is very interesting though.

 

[BuckleBoy]

The button is the wrong age to be camel corps. There were some buttons posted on here a while back that were the right age, but I don't think these were tied to the corps either. I haven't seen any documents indicating that special buttons were ordered for them.

But the button is late 1800s or even early 1900s.

 

[DCMatt]

Yours is a civilian button. And a fantasy one at that. The camel pictured is a two hump or Bactrian which is native to Asia. It would not be found or used in the climate near the pyramids of Egypt. The US Camel Corp, according to my (limited) research, used Arabian dromedary or one hump camels.

My guess is this is a Victorian era picture button.

Cool button, though.

DCMatt

 

[MonkeyBoy]

Yours is a civilian button. And a fantasy one at that. The camel pictured is a two hump or Bactrian which is native to Asia. It would not be found or used in the climate near the pyramids of Egypt. The US Camel Corp, according to my (limited) research, used Arabian dromedary or one hump camels.

My guess is this is a Victorian era picture button.

Cool button, though.

DCMatt

Cool!! Does have that same "feel" as a picture button.. "story" buttons is what I first heard them called.. but who am I to argue with the owner! ;-) and it seemed like something worth checking out.. cool little button. The Camel Corps is an interesting story.. but I don't see that as being something that would generated too much that is "unit specific".

I'll mark this one done..

Thanks..

MB

 

[montepollock]

To DCMATT that was a good observation,the back pointed to civilian manufacture but I didn,t notice the incongruity of the face.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

There were some buttons posted on here a while back...

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,161493.0.html

 

[CRUSADER]

There were some buttons posted on here a while back...

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,161493.0.html

there was a more recent one as well

 

[Cycluran]

Found your post while researching the same button this evening. I don't know what part of Virginia you found it in, but I just found one today near Alexandria and I'm in the process of cleaning it. I'll post a pic later.

 

[Cycluran]

Here's mine from yesterday's dig.

 

[Cycluran]

It even has the same line cutting across the back.

 

[Cycluran]

View attachment camel1856.bmp

The US Army did use Bactrian Camels for the Camel Corps.

 

[nhbenz]

The US Army used Bactrian Camels for the Camel Corps. The pyramid was added to the button for effect.

They had just two Bactrian camels, out of 33 animals. I think a more likely "effect" would have been the letters U.S.
A buckle I posted many moons ago was no more likely to be be related, in my view.
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/13871-camel-buckle-any-thoughts.html

 

[Cycluran]

The article attached to your old 2005 barn-buckle post indicated a total of 74 animals in two shipments with no specificity to species. Hi Jolly and the U.S. Camel Corps.
Also, the picture from 1857 clearly shows more than two Bactrian Camels. I suppose the artist could have been less than accurate in his depiction, though.
How many two-humpers is really a moot point because the button design may have been more aesthetic than accurate.

 

[DCMatt]

the button design may have been more aesthetic than accurate.

Correct. This button is all about aesthetics. That's why they are called "picture buttons".

Do a Google image search on 'camel palm "picture button"'. You'll see camel was a popular motif.

DCMatt