California Now Confiscating Legally Purchased Guns

[Red James Cash]

California Now Confiscating Legally Purchased Guns

Posted by: Brandon Walker Posted date: November 30, 2013

The first police raids to take legally purchased guns commenced in California. The state has the strictest gun laws in the country now, and is definitely not pro Second Amendment in the state.

California has been gearing up for this moment. Now they have made a move to confiscate legally purchased fire arms. They have expanded on their list of “prohibited persons” to have fire arms to include minor misdemeanors and “mental health concerns”. Some of the people are being not allowed their Second Amendment rights for various reasons including being behind on their taxes.

The state hired 20,000 more officers in preparation for the new confiscation legislation. They also authorized more than $24 million in new gear and weapons for their confiscation team. One of their targets was a man by the name of Joe Mendez.

A police officer came to the door and lured Mendez out of his house with a story of a hit and run report. Once outside, he had M16s pointed within inches of his face, was taken into custody and had all weapons removed from his house.

It is important to remember that these were legally- purchased and registered firearms. That gets to the other issue about this initiative.~downtrend
http://downtrend.com/travis/california-begins-confiscating-legally-purchased-guns/

That is what the new registry is all about, confiscating legally owned weapons and firearms inside California. If they determine for any reason that you should not own a fire arm, they confiscate it. The registration tells them the exact location of the gun. All the police have to do is figure out the reason you should be on the “prohibited person” list and then you can not stop them from taking your legally owned weapon. They just expanded their list of definitions.

We are not talking hard-core criminals. We are not talking illegally purchased firearms any more. We are talking getting a ticket for speeding, cops show up to take your firearms. We are talking having a bout of depression so your doctor prescribes an anti-depressant. Next thing you know they are there to take your fire arms like Mendez.

There is no more safety in the violation of the Second Amendment in the state of California. If they have an excuse, you loose your rights as an American Citizen.

 

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[Unclebuck257]

Where is that big earthquake when you really need it!? I can somewhat easily see this beginning to take hold in many of the liberal majority states within a couple of years, if it works in California. Isn't there some kind of legal challenge coming against this action?

 

[Jim in Idaho]

Ya know...in some respects, this might be a good thing. People may wake up. All the liberal statements saying "show me" on gun control, gun confiscation, etc., will now be shown as the BS they are. We conservatives have tried to warn people. We told them this was coming, we told them Obamacare would cost them big bucks. We told them the liberal agenda, and they didn't believe it. They just sneered at us. Maybe, just maybe, they might realize how much more of this is in the future, if we don't vote the Dems OUT.
Jim

 

[aa battery]

they fear us thats why this is going on. oh by the way earthquake gee thanks

 

[packerbacker]

you need to put any weapons and ammo that you will need in a safe place well ahead of any confiscation. Leave "token" weapons in your home. They'll feel good about finding something and leave. Then you are free to exercise your non-violent response.

 

[Old Bookaroo]

"...people on the so-called APPs list...at one time purchased firearms legally, but have since run afoul of the law, Yo says. 'Such as maybe a felony conviction, mental health commitment, they received a restraining order, domestic violence restraining order — some type of a misdemeanor conviction that prohibits them from possessing firearms.'"

One By One, California Agents Track Down Illegally Owned Guns : NPR

Personally, I see nothing wrong with taking firearms away from convicted felons or people with serious mental health issues. No matter how they first acquired them.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

[Dave44]

"...people on the so-called APPs list...at one time purchased firearms legally, but have since run afoul of the law, Yo says. 'Such as maybe a felony conviction, mental health commitment, they received a restraining order, domestic violence restraining order — some type of a misdemeanor conviction that prohibits them from possessing firearms.'"

One By One, California Agents Track Down Illegally Owned Guns : NPR

Personally, I see nothing wrong with taking firearms away from convicted felons or people with serious mental health issues. No matter how they first acquired them.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

But on another thread you say that "a great many" people that are arrested are actually innocent. How do you justify anything you say?

 

[Old Bookaroo]

Dave44:

Apparently you missed the word "convicted."

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

"...people on the so-called APPs list...at one time purchased firearms legally, but have since run afoul of the law, Yo says. 'Such as maybe a felony conviction, mental health commitment, they received a restraining order, domestic violence restraining order — some type of a misdemeanor conviction that prohibits them from possessing firearms.'"

One By One, California Agents Track Down Illegally Owned Guns : NPR

Personally, I see nothing wrong with taking firearms away from convicted felons or people with serious mental health issues. No matter how they first acquired them.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

The trouble is who is it that says they have a mental issue, their doctor or a government official?

You only lose the right to a firearm for life if convicted of a federal crime, many states allow a process for a convicted felon to regain the right to a fire arm.



We will NOT go quietly into the night!

 

[squiggy]

Hopefully a physician. ..

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[Dave44]

Dave44:

Apparently you missed the word "convicted."

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

Oh right, you say "a great many" that are "convicted" are actually innocent. lololol

 

[TheRingFinder]

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[Old Bookaroo]

Treasure Hunter;

How about a person taken in on a 5150 - a "mental health commitment?" Some people claiming to be "gun rights supporters" believe the mentally ill shouldn't have ready access to firearms.

How about people with domestic restraining orders against them? How about convicted felons?

Many states have a process for convicted felons to reobtain the right to vote. It is often abused by a political party scared to follow the law.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

[Old Bookaroo]

Dave44:

Keep tap dancing away from the facts.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

[Mad Machinist]

So because someone was responsible enough to step up and seek treatment for a mild problem, they are now going to be demonized for having some anxiety? Or mild depression? Or if they don't fit into a certain "mindset", they are deemed mentally deficient?

How about veterans? A lot have taken human life. So are they going to be deemed mentally "deficient" for what they did? How about members of the police forces who have discharged their weapons during an arrest? Are they going to be deemed mentally "deficient" for this or will they be given a pass for serving the "common good"?

 

[squiggy]

I would hope that it would apply to the seriously mentally ill population...folks who are psychotic etc...for the rest a case by case basis!

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[Mad Machinist]

I would hope that it would apply to the seriously mentally ill population...folks who are psychotic etc...for the rest a case by case basis!

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The real danger of this is the fact that it can be used by one side or the other to achieve whatever they want. The right or left can decide that because the other side doesn't believe what they believe then they obviously must be mentally ill. Throw up a few fruit loops from either side and viola, you have reason to use a broad brush.

 

[squiggy]

I don't think so..there is specific and measurable criteria for a diagnosis!

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[Treasure_Hunter]

Treasure Hunter;

How about a person taken in on a 5150 - a "mental health commitment?" Some people claiming to be "gun rights supporters" believe the mentally ill shouldn't have ready access to firearms.

How about people with domestic restraining orders against them? How about convicted felons?

Many states have a process for convicted felons to reobtain the right to vote. It is often abused by a political party scared to follow the law.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

OB, my problem is with a gov appointed Dr. Making the call.

Many states have a process for a felon to regain the right to a firearm.

Just being a felon doesn't make them a threat, there are lots of white collar felons that I would have no issues with having a firearm,..,. now violent offenders is a different story.

We will NOT go quietly into the night!

 

[Red James Cash]

.there is specific and measurable criteria for a diagnosis!

From a corrupt government and doctors and shrinks that only shove pills down peoples throats to get the kickbacks from the pharmaceutical companys,I dont think so.