Cactus Forest, Az

hell bells,i'd go 50/50,but i was just wondering what the cache was,did i offend?
 

Real de Tayopa said:
Yer outbid Bomber, 60:40 Osburn. and Bomber does the digging. heheheh

Don Jose de La Mancha
DONE,but i gotta feeling we'll still be thirsty
 

Albert Osborn said:
Does anyone on this forum even
know what the KGC means and
how and where they buried all
this gold?

Close to the right questions . . .

I do believe that the KGC did exist, not sure that it does now. But, I do have some posers that keep rattling around in my mind:

1. How did they get all this gold and other precious metals and guns?

2. How did they get all this gold, and no one ever write about it except treasure hunters?

3. Could someone explain the logistics of hiding BILLIONS of dollars of weapons and precious metals in thousands of caches dug from one end of this country to the other along with plotting, marking, and leaving signs that they hoped no one else could read? (Remember, KGC caches are alleged from the east coast to the left coast . . . )

And the one that intrigues me the most . . .

4. Why can no one post a pic?

I mean, REALLY!!! Why can't anyone post a picture of their reward for their hard work? Don't tell me no one on this board knows how to post an anonymous picture! Don't tell me no one here has that much knowledge! If you do, I'll call you a liar.

Anonymity on the internet is so very simple, anyone could create a secondary account here, and post a picture, and they could never be traced. And, even if they could be traced, there are programs which will destroy any evidence on your computer --- by standards far exceeding those used by the DOD for erasing Governmental Secrets! By the time the IRS or FBI or anyone else saw the pictures, their tracks would have disappeared from anyone's traffic logs, and the evidence could be destroyed to boot.

I'm not saying that these things don't exist. As I said before, I believe they did exist, but I'm just curious as hell about these four questions.
 

I would have to agree with Smee. He asked all of the right questions except for maybe one and that would be; why did they supposedly bury billions of dollars in the ground and then never use it? There are a couple of theories as to why they were supposedly accumulating all of this wealth but it was never used for those purposes so why was it put in the ground?

Albert, what made the cache that was recovered a KGC cache? Was it just because someone said it was or were there KGC signs, and I’m talking about real signs and not the imaginary template signs, that were found that lead to the cache? Would you please elaborate on this for us? What was found and how?




"It's not what you look at but what you see"
 

Since I was not there when the
cache was found, I don't know
the particulars, but before
J. Frank Dalton died in 1950,
he gave a lot of locations to
several treasure hunters and
one of them could have been
the one who retrieved this
cache in Cactus Forest.

Howso
 

Albert Osborn said:
Since I was not there when the
cache was found, I don't know
the particulars, but before
J. Frank Dalton died in 1950,
he gave a lot of locations to
several treasure hunters and
one of them could have been
the one who retrieved this
cache in Cactus Forest.

Howso

I don't mean to be a naysayer, but you must agree that from an observer standpoint, these comments you made are what causes doubt in many person's minds about KGC caches (as well as many other legendary caches).

1.
I was not there when the cache was found

2.
I don't know the particulars

3.
one of them could have been

I'm not saying these things don't exist, but generally in regards to lost treasure stories, there is TONS of "chaff" to sort through to get to the "wheat." On the other hand, if it were easy, it would have already been done.
 

I sure hope you're not thinking that J. Frank Dalton was part of the KGC and knew all of the secrets or the group. J. Frank was a con man and Orvus Houk was an even bigger con man and very little of anything either of them said was true. I'm not sure J. Frank gave any real location to anybody, he told Houk a lot of BS just to keep him paying the bills and Houk made up the rest.

Houk was able to see a few real treasure maps but they didn't come from J. Frank and Houk didn't have any idea on how to figure them out. J. Frank Dalton may have recovered one small treasure in Oklahoma northwest of Lawton but it didn't have anything to do with the KGC and it was definitely NOT an alleged depository, more like a "road side" cache. Based on all the other lies that J. Frank told it would be my opinion that anything he said about treasure would not be something I would trust.

That would bring up another question; if J. Frank knew the location of all of these supposed treasures then why didn't he dig them up himself? J. Frank died poor, so poor there was no money to pay his funeral bill which went unpaid for more than 30 years. Orvus Houk also died poor and was buried by the county. How come these two guys that supposedly had all of the answers about KGC treasure didn't have any money when they died but they could tell others where these big treasures supposedly were?
 

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