Buttons and Button Backmarks help.

[fyrffytr1]

I am finally going through my brothers relics and came across some buttons and backmarks that I could use some help with. First is a 1 piece convex with a crown on the front. An image of the crown is on the back as well. It is about 5/8" (calling Redcoat!). Second is a backmark on a plain flat button that reads Double Gilt 2nd Quality. Third is another plain flat button that reads Treble Orange Standard 967. The fourth is another flat button with a Turner/Dickinson backmark with a crown. Fifth is a 1 piece convex NU Cadet cuff button. No backmark.
I know the first two plain flat buttons date to the early 1800s but I have never seen those backmarks. I don't know anything about the crown button (calling Redcoat!) I can't find anything about the Turner/ Dickinson backmark either (calling Redcoat again!) I think the NU button is from Norwich University in Vermont but don't know the age.
That will take care of me for now but I do have some more buttons to share when I get pictures of them.

 

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[fyrffytr1]

The NU Cadet button.

 

[ArfieBoy]

I'm not a button guy, but I like your finds. Thanks for sharing with us.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Your brass 1-piece button with a crown is a World War One era Prussian Empire army enlisted-man's uniform button. I'll stand down and let my esteemed colleague RedCoat handle the others, because he probably knows more about non-military-button British backmarks than I do. ("Turner/Dickinson" is not in the McGuinn-&-Bazelon backmarkss book.)

 

[Red-Coat]

Your brass 1-piece button with a crown is a World War One era Prussian Empire army enlisted-man's uniform button. I'll stand down and let my esteemed colleague RedCoat handle the others, because he probably knows more about non-military-button British backmarks than I do. ("Turner/Dickinson" is not in the McGuinn-&-Bazelon backmarkss book.)

Thank you CBG.

The first button is German Imperial, with the crown of Prussia. I agree it's a WWI era tunic button.

The Turner & Dickinson button has the backmark for ‘Hammond, Turner & Dickinson’ but reference to ‘Hammond’ is often missing on these backmarks in the interests of brevity (except when expressed in initials as ‘H T & D’). The Hammond company was established in 1717 in Birmingham but sometime between 1790-1823 they began operating as Hammond, Turner & Dickinson (with and without reference to ‘Hammond); and then ‘Hammond, Turner & Sons' after 1823.

I know that they held contracts for British Naval buttons in the 1807-1812 period and perhaps other military contracts but they also made ‘fashion’ buttons. Could we please see the actual design on the face that has the crown?

 

[fyrffytr1]

Thanks for the help TCG. I found a Turner on a British button site but no Turner/Dickinson.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Thank you CBG.

The first button is German Imperial, with the crown of Prussia. I agree it's a WWI era tunic button.

The Turner & Dickinson button has the backmark for ?Hammond, Turner & Dickinson? but reference to ?Hammond? is often missing on these backmarks in the interests of brevity (except when expressed in initials as ?H T & D?). The Hammond company was established in 1717 in Birmingham but sometime between 1790-1823 they began operating as Hammond, Turner & Dickinson (with and without reference to ?Hammond); and then ?Hammond, Turner & Sons' after 1823.

I know that they held contracts for British Naval buttons in the 1807-1812 period and perhaps other military contracts but they also made ?fashion? buttons. Could we please see the actual design on the face that has the crown?

The front is plain. Looking closer at the back I believe Hammond's name is under the bent over shank. I can see letters under the shank as well as "ond" to the right of it.

 

[Red-Coat]

The front is plain. Looking closer at the back I believe Hammond's name is under the bent over shank. I can see letters under the shank as well as "ond" to the right of it.

Yes. I think you're correct. If the 'Hammond' appears, that's where it will be. This is from an 1807 pattern naval button (which would have anchor designs on the front, varying according to rank):



Sorry, I misunderstood, and thought you were saying yours had a crown design on the front. If it's plain it will likely be fashion/civilian (and 1823 or earlier).