Button ID needed. NY & CMSSL Solved: Cuba Mail Steamship Company

[BobinSouthVA]

Button ID needed. NY & CMSSL Solved: Cuba Mail Steamship Company

on the front are the initials NY & CMSSL

On the back I can read Bernard Levy NY.

Is this anything of just a blazer coat button. I am coming up blank searching. The property had a house on it that was gone either by 1904 or 1960 according to two accounts.

Can't tell if the thing going through the shank is wood or metal, but I kind of like it in there and haven't tried to remove it.

Thanks for looking

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Button ID needed. NY & CMSSL

I havent researched it yet but its a career uniform button from a steamship line. (S.S.L) I see flag and anchor.

 

[BobinSouthVA]

Re: Button ID needed. NY & CMSSL

I havent researched it yet but its a career uniform button from a steamship line. (S.S.L)

Thanks thats a good lead. been coming up blank searching for CMSSL

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Button ID needed. NY & CMSSL

Heres another steamship company. They almost always have a flag. Too bad its not the Titanic.

 

[Bramblefind]

Re: Button ID needed. NY & CMSSL

Perhaps it is Ward Line / New York & Cuba Mail Steamship Company-

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/ward.html

Ward Line commenced operations with steamships in 1877 with services between New York, Nassau and Havana. In 1888 Ward purchased the fleet and services to the east coast of Mexico of the Alexandre Line. In 1907 Charles W. Morse purchased the Ward Line, but shortly after went bankrupt and Ward Line combined with several other Morse companies to form Atlantic, Gulf and West Indies Line (Agwiline) each under their own management.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Button ID needed. NY & CMSSL

Perhaps it is Ward Line / New York & Cuba Mail Steamship Company-

Shes good.
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/old-uniform-ship-steamship-button-new-york-cuba

 

[Bramblefind]

Re: Button ID needed. NY & CMSSL

Thanks BigCy Great job on finding a pic of the button Go Team!

 

[BobinSouthVA]

Re: Button ID needed. NY & CMSSL

Awesome ID guys.

This team rocks

Thanks

 

[BobinSouthVA]

Re: Button ID needed. NY & CMSSL Solved: Cuba Mail Steamship Company

Wow this has certainly lead to some interesting reading tonight. I personally had never heard of the Morro Castle disaster and thus the fall of the Ward Line.

Judging by the comment from the researcher on www.wardline.com this design was popular until the turn of 20th century which may date my button. I did not copy the picture due to the copyright notice on the page but here is the link

http://www.wardline.com/albums/album_image/4559839/1367672.htm

here is a neat article about the Morrow Castle wreck

http://www.garemaritime.com/features/morro-castle/index.php





Kind of sad

 

[Bramblefind]

Re: Button ID needed. NY & CMSSL Solved: Cuba Mail Steamship Company

Thanks Bob - I hadn't heard of it either. I also just read a few more articles about it.

Wikipedia has a straight forward account-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Morro_Castle_(1930)

What a horrible tragedy.