Button I.D.

[Button Lover]

Found this button the other day and I've searched everywhere to identify it. Looks like the letters on the back are MWAC or WMAC depending on how you read it. I thought it was brass, as it is pretty heavy, but once I cleaned it, it almost looks like it's silver?

Hope the pictures provide enough information?

Thanks in advance for your i.d. help

 

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[creskol]

does it say l'hiver around the edge?

 

[Button Lover]

It has some sort or writing, but its very faint and I can't read.

 

[creskol]

If you have a flatbed scanner, lay the button face down on the platform and take a high resolution scan.

 

[Button Lover]

I'll try the scanner later today, after 3 and re-post the find. What does i'hiver mean if that is on the button?

 

[creskol]

I'll try the scanner later today, after 3 and re-post the find. What does i'hiver mean if that is on the button?

If it does say that, it is French for winter. I remember seeing a one piece cast gilted French button that, as I remember, looked like your button, that said l'hiver around the edge.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Coin button or portrait button. It does look silver. I havent found it but here are some examples. http://www.ioffer.com/i/Portrait-Buttons-Napoleon-David-Norse-god-Thor--37629041

 

[Button Lover]

Although I have not yet scanned for a better look at the writing, I was able to see a "Fran" and looks like a space and an "F"
ON THe front of the button?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Could it say REPUBLIQUE FRANCAISE? http://www.etsy.com/listing/88103298/1849-silver-france-5-francs-coin

http://ocgold.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/2011-08-12_00341.jpg

http://www.etsy.com/listing/72752733/vintage-1945-ww-ii-republique-francaise

 

[Button Lover]

Republic Francais is it! Now what the heck is that?

 

[creskol]

Cool .. A French coin button! .. I knew it looked French, but I was on the wrong track .. never seen a coin button before.. Good ID BigC!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Republic Francais is it! Now what the heck is that?

Republic of France I guess. I took Creskols lead and searched French coins. The coin I pictured is 1945. Does the back match?

Heres a good link about Spanish colonial coat and cuff link buttons. It says somewhere on the page that in colonial days it was rare to make a button from a real coin because only the rich could afford to do it. http://www.artifacts.org/patriotic.htm

"Rarely, genuine coins were converted into buttons via the addition of a simple looped wire shank, although this was no doubt a practice reserved for people of above average means."

 

[Button Lover]

Re: Button I.D. Found One similar

Here is a link for one that I found that looks very close, but no link to the back? The backs on the link you posted Cypress Hunter are not like this one.
I've been searching now for 3 days and finally did a search on Republique Francais button pictures and this came up.

hatpinscollection.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_arc...

 

[kuger]

I have seen American coin buttons(usually made from Seateds)but never a French coin.....thats cool!!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Button I.D. Found One similar

Here is a link for one that I found that looks very close, but no link to the back? The backs on the link you posted Cypress Hunter are not like this one.
I've been searching now for 3 days and finally did a search on Republique Francais button pictures and this came up.

hatpinscollection.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_arc...

link wont work http://hatpinscollection.blogspot.com/

 

[Button Lover]

Try this one and see if it Will work?

bp3.blogger.com/.../s320/republiquephrygian.jpg

Image may be subject to copyright.

Below is the image at: hatpinscollection.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_arc...

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Try this one and see if it Will work?

bp3.blogger.com/.../s320/republiquephrygian.jpg

Image may be subject to copyright.

Below is the image at: hatpinscollection.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_arc...

Nothing works for me. To post a link properly the url needs to have http:// in front.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I put http:// in front to try it but I still get the same.

http://hatpinscollection.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_arc...


The other link you posted is a jpeg. Ill try and search for it.

ADDED: the search of the jpeg reveals no matches and http:// does not help.

http://bp3.blogger.com/.../s320/republiquephrygian.jpg



Im not very good with computers but if you copy and paste the url at the top of the page, starting with http, it should work. Right click on the url and left click on copy. Paste it here.

 

[Button Lover]

Re: Button ID picture added, still looking for backmark ID

Republique Francaise Liberty Lady. 2:00 in the picture - The Republique Francaise is inscribed on the top of the coin, going around the circumerence - bronze? a coin shape, with a relief figure of Lady Liberty, wearing the Phrygian Cap of historic fame. The hat - see Hello, Fodder, Fodderwear - Phrygian Cap. There is a bar across the back, where the finding is attached. Rod 8". Diameter 1 1/4" scant.

We love our big magnifying glass. There on the back in tiny writing is something like "patent August 11 1923" we think. Ha - look that up and we find that is the date that some poor soul was taken to a train station and never seen again - insurance coverage for the disappeared case - see ://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ok&vol=/supreme/1934/&invol=39151.

More promising as to connection is this one: a review of Year 1923, and we find Mussolini and Hitler acting up. See ://www.answers.com/topic/1923

Many here are art nouveau in style, with faces in floral or swirly hair background designs. Better and individual photos as we have time.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Republique Francaise Liberty Lady. 2:00 in the picture - The Republique Francaise is inscribed on the top of the coin, going around the circumerence - bronze? a coin shape, with a relief figure of Lady Liberty, wearing the Phrygian Cap of historic fame. The hat - see Hello, Fodder, Fodderwear - Phrygian Cap. There is a bar across the back, where the finding is attached. Rod 8". Diameter 1 1/4" scant.

We love our big magnifying glass. There on the back in tiny writing is something like "patent August 11 1923" we think. Ha - look that up and we find that is the date that some poor soul was taken to a train station and never seen again - insurance coverage for the disappeared case - see ://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ok&vol=/supreme/1934/&invol=39151.

More promising as to connection is this one: a review of Year 1923, and we find Mussolini and Hitler acting up. See ://www.answers.com/topic/1923

Many here are art nouveau in style, with faces in floral or swirly hair background designs. Better and individual photos as we have time.

Im not sure what you are doing wrong. I put an http in front to try and help. I gotta go to work. It looks like a match but isnt the coin facing the wrong way? You lost me on the Hitler/Mussolini connection.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ok&vol=/supreme/1934/&invol=39151

http://www.answers.com/topic/1923