Button found today… and lead, always lead!!

[blossom]

So today was to hot to stay out long, but happy with our little finds…. the livery button has a peacock on it, and the back says Samuel Briggs, Grantham, so I did a little research…. I may be wrong, but this is what I found, Samuel Briggs was a Tailor based in Grantham in 1820, but things didn’t go well and was made Bankrupt 10th feb 1829…. 🫤 now not sure if this date fits with the button age…. Hopefully it does xx

 

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[CRUSADER]

It fits just fine for that construction of button, I think you nailed it. Livery Buttons are always fun to find, most went on servants like coachmen/footmen etc
Dad & I have got a collection of just over 170 different types, I always like to see one I haven't got yet, & I never would have thought when I started this hobby that I would get interested in buttons! All part of the fun of where our finds take us.

 

[blossom]

It fits just fine for that construction of button, I think you nailed it. Livery Buttons are always fun to find, most went on servants like coachmen/footmen etc
Dad & I have got a collection of just over 170 different types, I always like to see one I haven't got yet, & I never would have thought when I started this hobby that I would get interested in buttons! All part of the fun of where our finds take us.

Ahh Thank you x I’m still in shock at the pendant i found yesterday, been searching for the coat of arms, without success, so really pleased that this button was more straight forward! I agree 100% it’s a truly awesome hobby. (The peacock is for the Manners family, but guess you already knew that!) x

 

[crashbandicoot]

Nice button Blossom and nice backstory too. Nice lead,I like lead,easily worked,useful for many things and relatively cheap. I like to take old found lead and mold it into fishing lures,catch a fish with 100 year old or older lead!

 

[Almy]

I like your finds and detective work!

 

[blossom]

I like your finds and detective work!

Ah thank you! 😊

 

[blossom]

Nice button Blossom and nice backstory too. Nice lead,I like lead,easily worked,useful for many things and relatively cheap. I like to take old found lead and mold it into fishing lures,catch a fish with 100 year old or older lead!

“Easily worked, useful for many things and relatively cheap…. “ 🤔 you could be describing me 😂😂 x

 

[crashbandicoot]

“Easily worked, useful for many things and relatively cheap…. “ 🤔 you could be describing me 😂😂 x

 

[KSDirtfisher77]

Ahh Thank you x I’m still in shock at the pendant i found yesterday, been searching for the coat of arms, without success, so really pleased that this button was more straight forward! I agree 100% it’s a truly awesome hobby. (The peacock is for the Manners family, but guess you already knew that!) x

Nice button! I love it. I like your information behind the button. You mentioned the peacock is for the Manners family on the button, does that mean that the button design of the peacock was only manufactured for the Manners family only? I like to learn this kinda stuff as I come along with it. Thanks!

 

[pepperj]

Very nice 200yr old button. Congrats
Makes for a smile.
Anymore luck on the hanging pendant ID?

 

[blossom]

Very nice 200yr old button. Congrats
Makes for a smile.
Anymore luck on the hanging pendant ID?

Alas no, ive searched for the coat of arms… but not found it yet, but will keep searching!! I do not like being thwarted in my quest 😆 x

 

[blossom]

Nice button! I love it. I like your information behind the button. You mentioned the peacock is for the Manners family on the button, does that mean that the button design of the peacock was only manufactured for the Manners family only? I like to learn this kinda stuff as I come along with it. Thanks!

This is the one that closet resembles it. I believe family’s/ households had their own, but not 100% sure!

 

[pepperj]

Alas no, ive searched for the coat of arms… but not found it yet, but will keep searching!! I do not like being thwarted in my quest 😆 x

I had a pretty good site bookmarked.
I found it easy to navigate and find the ID on the one I found.
I'll see if I can find it in the AM for you.

 

[blossom]

I had a pretty good site bookmarked.
I found it easy to navigate and find the ID on the one I found.
I'll see if I can find it in the AM for you.

Wow! Awesome! thank you! 🤗 xx

 

[Digger RJ]

So today was to hot to stay out long, but happy with our little finds…. the livery button has a peacock on it, and the back says Samuel Briggs, Grantham, so I did a little research…. I may be wrong, but this is what I found, Samuel Briggs was a Tailor based in Grantham in 1820, but things didn’t go well and was made Bankrupt 10th feb 1829…. 🫤 now not sure if this date fits with the button age…. Hopefully it does xx

Very Cool button!!! Congrats!!!

 

[Florida Finder]

So today was to hot to stay out long, but happy with our little finds…. the livery button has a peacock on it, and the back says Samuel Briggs, Grantham, so I did a little research…. I may be wrong, but this is what I found, Samuel Briggs was a Tailor based in Grantham in 1820, but things didn’t go well and was made Bankrupt 10th feb 1829…. 🫤 now not sure if this date fits with the button age…. Hopefully it does xx

Another awesome hunt with a very nice button. Congratulations

 

[CRUSADER]

This is the one that closet resembles it. I believe family’s/ households had their own, but not 100% sure!

The land gents had there family coats of arms but the up and coming new money industrialist and rich merchants etc wanted to fit into high society and they had no family coat of arms, so they would pick one, some were generic, so several 'new money' people, with not enough money to do a die run of new ones would have the same, probably not in the same town. There was more new money in the 1830-40's than the landed gents, so they were not unique to many families in that sense.

 

[CRUSADER]

Alas no, ive searched for the coat of arms… but not found it yet, but will keep searching!! I do not like being thwarted in my quest 😆 x

You would need to get very lucky. Without the background colours, and at least you know the dots are yellow, you can have several coats of arms look identical until you colour them in.

 

[Hunk-a-lead]

So today was to hot to stay out long, but happy with our little finds…. the livery button has a peacock on it, and the back says Samuel Briggs, Grantham, so I did a little research…. I may be wrong, but this is what I found, Samuel Briggs was a Tailor based in Grantham in 1820, but things didn’t go well and was made Bankrupt 10th feb 1829…. 🫤 now not sure if this date fits with the button age…. Hopefully it does xx

well played on the find and the research! awesome