Busy Month Wrap-up, First Union State Button, Charleston Police Cuff, and more...

Stef45

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Like the title says, it has been a busy month for me but I have been able to get out and detect. Still working this same site that has produced the 1853 Seated HalfDime, SC Dispensary bottles, Early Coke bottles, etc. There is a planted field on the property that I haven't really been able to get into as much but one of my best finds from the site came from in between the rows. It has been so hot that each hunt is only 3 hours or so long. Here is about a month of digging at this site sporadically.

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Best two finds by far are the two Cuff Buttons. First one was my latest find, a Connecticut State button from the Civil War. The back mark really threw me for a loop but after some research I found out that P Mendez was a Cuban button manufacturer that Scovill had ordered button backs for durring the war. From what i read they had bought them for Maine buttons but apparently they had some left over for CT as well. I've only found one other button like mine so far and this one is in incredible shape! You can see that there is gilt still under the dirt, but i'm not sure if I will clean it yet or not. Might leave it as is for now. Any more info on this button is always welcomed.

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The second cuff I couldn't believe! Last year I dug a Charleston Police button and was sad to find out that it was post CW made (still a cool button). When I dug this one at first i didn't see the Charleston Seal on it but when I did and didn't see "Charleston" or "police" on it i didn't really know what to think. I sent pictures of the button to William Leigh and he confirmed that this one was made 1840-1850's! Which makes up for the one that was post war. I have yet to find another example of this one anywhere. So I need any help i can get as far as info on the button. This button was picked out between rows of okra and still has a little gilt left as well. Not sure what to do with the middle dirt buildup. might leave as is for now.

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This Great Seal Buckle(i think?) got the heart pumping. Guessing ww1-ww2 let me know what you think.

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Marine button I believe and its beyond toasty. Dug not too far from the great seal buckle.

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Dug a couple junk rings. Obviously the one on the left got me real excited.

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Dug some Silver! Two silver Washington quarters that were actually stuck together when i dug them. I think they were partially melted. 1945/1951. Also dug the usual three wheaties

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Dug my first padlock cover. This is British right? GR. Also dug a little piece of turquoise jewelry.

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Dug some nice little buckles. First one is the oldest and it was the only thing out of the bunch that I dug at a new site i have been trying out. These next two are pretty tiny...any idea what they would have been for and how old? The circle piece i think is a buckle just because it looks to have been gold/silver gilt/plated at one point.

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This little piece looks like silver but i'm not 100% sure.

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Not sure what this would have been off of. Is it a clip or buckle? Pretty nice little design.

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Odds and ends. Bunch of clay pipe stems, marble, a couple reeds (one from a harmonica i'm guessing and the other from an accordion? And a tiny little weight that reads 1/4 oz 7 gm.

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These two tokens I cannot figure out. They read "Ideal Holding Co" and I can't seems to find anything on them. The other little brass piece i need help on as well.

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Thanks for looking! Good luck out there!

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Nice finds! That eagle "buckle" looks like a rosette to me. Probably off of a US cavalry horse! I think that is so cool and a great piece!
 

Thank you! I really wasn't sure what it was never dug one before.
 

Looks like somebody had a pretty great month of detecting! Congrats. The buttons are very interesting, and in great condition.
 

Nice to see the grouping finally posted Stef, but now there's finally some competition in the low country with me back from deployment :laughing7: Nice digging buddy - Charleston police cuff definitely my favorite of the group.
 

This is the kind of post that makes me want to put down my iPhone and go digging RIGHT NOW. Man you found a great variety of excellent stuff congrats
 

Definitely a US Army horseharness "Great Seal" rosette, issued from about 1902 right up to the present. It could be for Cavalry but also for officers' horseharness. I'll attach a photo showing one on a US Model-1909 bridle/headstall. Because the army hasn't used horses for anything but Ceremonial purposes since the start of World War Two, your Great Seal rosette most likely dates from the World War One era, when the army was by far at its largest size in all the years from 1902 to the late-1930s, and had the most horses.

The time-period of your pre-civil-war Charleston Police button can be narrowed down to a 10-year period. The Scovill button-making firm used the button-backmark "Scovills & Co." (note the s on the end, rather than the singular Scovill name) ONLY from 1840 to 1850.
 

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That's a fabulous haul of old relics! Love it ALL! Well done mate!:headbang:
 

Man, you might be giving Jon a run for his money! (fuel to the fire :blob8:) Those buttons are in extremely good condition, especially the Connecticut button; by the way I'd definitely shine that one up with aluminum jelly. But of course that's a matter of personal preference-no right or wrong way. The two figure eight-shaped buckles are spectacle buckles-very old and to have found two matching complete ones is pretty special-did you find both of them at the same site?
 

Very nice set of finds Steph. Congrats.

Big reed is for an accordion... two reed slots, one for pull, one for push.
Small reed... harmonium... air pumped organ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pump_organ
 

Nice finds. I like the two piece assymetrical buckle frame the best. That' one is pretty old. Those smaller ones are cool too but not sure on their age.
 

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Nice to see the grouping finally posted Stef, but now there's finally some competition in the low country with me back from deployment :laughing7: Nice digging buddy - Charleston police cuff definitely my favorite of the group.

The competition is good for me. Was getting too easy. Yeah dude I love the cuffs! The Charleston one is already being prominently displayed. Welcome back!
 

This is the kind of post that makes me want to put down my iPhone and go digging RIGHT NOW. Man you found a great variety of excellent stuff congrats

I know the feeling! Especially when I see old silver. Thanks!
 

Definitely a US Army horseharness "Great Seal" rosette, issued from about 1902 right up to the present. It could be for Cavalry but also for officers' horseharness. I'll attach a photo showing one on a US Model-1909 bridle/headstall. Because the army hasn't used horses for anything but Ceremonial purposes since the start of World War Two, your Great Seal rosette most likely dates from the World War One era, when the army was by far at its largest size in all the years from 1902 to the late-1930s, and had the most horses.

The time-period of your pre-civil-war Charleston Police button can be narrowed down to a 10-year period. The Scovill button-making firm used the button-backmark "Scovills & Co." (note the s on the end, rather than the singular Scovill name) ONLY from 1840 to 1850.

Thanks as always CB Guy!
 

Man, you might be giving Jon a run for his money! (fuel to the fire :blob8:) Those buttons are in extremely good condition, especially the Connecticut button; by the way I'd definitely shine that one up with aluminum jelly. But of course that's a matter of personal preference-no right or wrong way. The two figure eight-shaped buckles are spectacle buckles-very old and to have found two matching complete ones is pretty special-did you find both of them at the same site?

Thank you! Yeah I might put some AJ on the CT button, whenever i muster the courage lol. The two little buckles were from the same site about 10-15 yards away from each other. I hope you are right on them.
 

Nice finds. I like the two piece assymetrical buckle frame the best. That' one is pretty old. Those smaller ones are cool too but not sure on their age.

Thanks! The one buckle is late 1600s to early 1700s i believe. And yeah the small ones are pretty nice for their size thats for sure.
 

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