Buried town of Venice. 1858-62

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Hello everyone,

I'm going to make good on my word with sharing several stories on this forum maybe even as much as ten, Some of you may not find them interesting and those that so please do enjoy. Some have never been posted on any forum and a few including today's have been posted once before on another forum.

I know some of you out there are interested in California history and maybe some of the locals here have seen me post this on another forum but non the less it is a wonderful story from our area especially for those that are not familiar with the 1858-62 Town of Venice, Locating an old settlement or village can be just as exciting/rewarding as recovering finds and hopefully this post can bring out some of the old timers or even the new eager treasure hunters to press forward and share their stories as well.

In many cases, Many here including myself would rather walk on old soil instead of detecting them after putting together the many pieces of information found from history books and old maps. Would you believe even some of the clues can come from the stories themselves, Stories of men fighting the Indians or against themselves, dying or surviving only to escape and later meet their fate from a strange accident. Allot of valuable information can be obtained and if used correctly can open the gates to many older sites when the pieces of puzzle come together, Believe me we know first hand how the most important clue of solving a mystery can come from a sentence of an old book, Read read and read is the best source of obtaining information to unlocking the mystery of finding old settlements.

Below, Are a few pictures of the 1858-62 Venice town location, Which isn't too far from the 1851 Woodsville massacre and in fact on the same old Fremont trail running through both towns.

The town is now under several feet of sand and top soil due to the massive flood of 1862, The entire town was destroyed and is now buried, Using old maps and reams of information I finally located the buried town of Venice about three years ago.

Not too far from the buried town of Venice lies a hill top in which the Indians would use as a lookout post and many of the Indians lived among the lower parts of the hill and both directions of the river. Behind these ponies and cattle is the hilltop. Also, It has been said and is recorded in our history books the Indians had captured two bothers and tied them down near this area, Maybe not more than 100 yards. What was to happen next no one knows but miraculously a troop of soldiers were coming around this hill top and when the Indians seen the soilders they escaped and left the two unharmed brothers tied to the stake, The two brothers were set free by the soldiers.

At the time, In order to get these pictures permission from the different property owners had been granted to me to enter the properties at will and no trespassing has ever taken place.

Thanks for looking, Hope you and your families all the best!
Paul (Ca)
 

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Paul,

Thanks for sharing these stories. I agree, reading the history, locating the site, and then walking around the areas is the pinnacle of the experience. If you happen to find relics, that's icing on the cake. I grew up in New York and had fun locating old homesites/homesteads, but this was way before I knew about the metal-detecting hobby. Now that I live in San Diego, I've immersed myself in the mission era and depression-era literature. I had always considered history the most boring subject in school, but now I'm obsessed with the past. Teachers could take some good lessons away from this hobby in an effort to bring history alive to the kids of today. My daughter just learned about the gold rush and is quite interested in the past, impressive for a nine-year old. She picks up pieces of quartz when we're hiking and asks "Daddy, is there any gold in *this* piece?" Imagine the effect of these history lessons on kids if teachers could bring a gold coin into class, a sluicebox, or other period relics to augment their teaching. Anyway, I digress. Thanks again for sharing these stories.

Jim
 

Thanks Jim,

One of my brothers lives in San Diego with his daughter, I may head down there this week or in the near future and visit them.

That is good your daughter is learning things about California history, The gold rush era was the beginning of California. And yes, If teachers could bring relics of that era or even tools used by the 49er pioneers into class boy would it ever enhance kids imaginations.

I recently well actually a little over a year ago recovered some old coins and artifacts from the gold rush era, Made a nice display and gave the owner of the property the display. His daughter has shown this in her school class and shared with them the history of the property, Can you image the children's imaginations drifting back in time when they seen the finds and listened to the story given by the property owners daughter.

Well, I best stop rambling before I run out of ink.

Thanks again Jim and I'll enclose a picture of the display I gave to the owner of the Ghost town, Some of the coins are a few seated dimes, many Chinese cache coins and an 1852 $5 gold piece.

Paul (Ca)
 

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Paul,

Ah yes, I remember that post. I seem to remember a photo of the big field/valley where you photoshopped in an arrow of the very spot the gold coin came from. That was entertaining. Very generous of you to make that display for the property owner.

Jim
 

Hey Paul,
GREAT post I really enjoy your stories.. I would love to get together when you come down to SD. Please let me know. It would be cool to meet someone from the site with the same interest. Beer's on me...Or whatever you drink..

PLL
 

Really enjoyed both post Paul and the display is outstanding. I don't think I saw that one before.

El
 

Thanks Jim, PLL and El,

Jim, When the gold coin surfaced from this ghost town I knew right there and then it was going to the property owner. The thought of keeping it never entered my mind, Making the find is something I will relish far more than the find itself.

PLL, I canceled my trip down south for this week. Before heading home last night stopped over my moms house and she's not up to the trip down there to visit the grandchildren so I told her we would go in two months instead, The trip was mainly for her so we'll wait and when we do go I'll surely contact you and meet you somewhere in that area, It'll be a pleasure meeting with you..Looking forward to seeing you soon!

El, These ghost town finds came from the same general area not too far from two areas you and I will hopefully be going too soon, Get your rattlesnake protective gear ready :)

Thanks again,
Paul (Ca)
 

Hi paul if i had a history teacher like you in school it would have been more interesting :thumbsup:
 

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