Bummed

[bsit1361]

Went to my local fields to find that they had only been disced this year. When I came up the drive I was depressed. I have very little area to hunt now and it gets slimmer all the time. I have one more local field that I am waiting to see what they do with it. Last year it was plowed so it may only get a disc this year but I hope not. Got a buddy looking into the pa field for this weekend but its a maybe. Hope I'm not getting my hopes up. May be a real slow year

 

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[bci101tractors]

I'm a little bummed as well, fields arnt plowed yet, tough diggin at the shelter, no till and CRP adds to it...
Good luck this year, I hope things turn around for you...
BCI

 

[rock]

Most of the fields here are no till fields. The cost of diesel is so high the farmers are getting away from the deep plow.

 

[bsit1361]

I don't understand the laws here. We aren't supposed to plow but I know of three fields that do. Lower pa is a different story. They plow and the Amish do too

 

[NC field hunter]

I don't understand the laws here. We aren't supposed to plow but I know of three fields that do. Lower pa is a different story. They plow and the Amish do too

Wow! I had no idea that plowing was against the law in any state. Why? That seems absurd. Sorry to hear that.

 

[rock]

Yeah some plow here and some dont. I just know the reason I was told is cause the gas cost too much as to them not plowing.

 

[quito]

Yeah, I've never heard of illegal farmland plowing before.

But then nothing would surprise me that comes from either coast these days, regulation wise anyway.

 

[bsit1361]

Well some of the lands are county owned that the caretaker allows me to walk. I guess since its county they can do what they want. The other is just an old timer whose land is way outta the way.

 

[GTK96]

Got some friends a few counties away who now don't till because the gov't pays money for you not to so it doesn't drain to the Bay or something...all I know is before a few years ago, you would find 10-50 every time you walked it. Guaranteed.

But hey, I saw the local farmer "Mickey" plowing away when I drove by today, so Saturday after it rains may be sweet....

 

[bsit1361]

Good luck and hope to see a killer post!

 

[Brandiwine]

Excessive plowing can be very bad for the soil, especially when done on huge food plots (factory farming). I rotate garden spots a lot, but I have the land to do so. Some rotate crops...I rotate the whole garden.

I love plowing season...even if I do hate seeing a broken artifact I know I broke. As for disking, I'm totally against that practice...much to my husbands dismay. It looks as if it would cause more damage than the plow. Of course I try to convince him not to disk because of the detrimental damage to the soil quality. I have a better chance with that on. ;-)

 

[NC field hunter]

Excessive plowing can be very bad for the soil, especially when done on huge food plots (factory farming). I rotate garden spots a lot, but I have the land to do so. Some rotate crops...I rotate the whole garden.

I love plowing season...even if I do hate seeing a broken artifact I know I broke. As for disking, I'm totally against that practice...much to my husbands dismay. It looks as if it would cause more damage than the plow. Of course I try to convince him not to disk because of the detrimental damage to the soil quality. I have a better chance with that on. ;-)

I'm no farmer, but I do know certain crops drain the earth's nutrients, while others renew it. It seems logical (in my illogical mind any way) that land that is not plowed would wind up covered in brush and unwanted trees. I hate to see plow damage on artifacts. However, it's inevitable. Plow and damage a few, or nothing at all. We win some, and we lose some. Normally, a plow will sort of roll a stone off of its side, leaving little to no damage. We probably break more than the plow, stepping on them, as we hunt. I know I step on my fair share. Wish my eye was trained better.

 

[GTK96]

It's a love/hate relationship, that's for sure...and I admit, I've kicked one or two myself before 😚

 

[Tnmountains]

If you have a large farming operation it pays to drill and go no till cause you can not replace your top soil. If you are doing around 50 or 100 acres in may be cheaper to just plow. We do a 3 crop rotation between wheat soy beans and corn and a light disc every 3 years. Down in the bottoms and valleys on the river they will plow it cause they have 10 feet of top soil down there. I hate to see fields go to pasture or CRP. Hang in there Ben things have a way of turning around. Might turn you into a creek hunter yet.

 

[larson1951]

If you have a large farming operation it pays to drill and go no till cause you can not replace your top soil. If you are doing around 50 or 100 acres in may be cheaper to just plow. We do a 3 crop rotation between wheat soy beans and corn and a light disc every 3 years. Down in the bottoms and valleys on the river they will plow it cause they have 10 feet of top soil down there. I hate to see fields go to pasture or CRP. Hang in there Ben things have a way of turning around. Might turn you into a creek hunter yet.

you are right richard
around here the crops are put in with a one pass operation with a no till air seeder and a small teaspoon of nitrogen injected below the ground under the seed
the huge 550 HP john deeres here have A/C, TV, and are GPS controlled steering
my cousin has two set-ups like that and each rig costs over a half million
you gotta have real good land to do that and also thousands of acres to plant


on our little 30 some acre village site for this year twitko, russy, and me are gonna use the following
twiko____________JD 720 diesel with a JD 12 foot chisel plow w/18"sweeps (duckfeet)
me_____________JD 720 diesel w/a JD 14 foot chisel plow w/18"sweeps (duckfeet)
and russy will be using my JD model 70 gas with a real nice 10 foot IH chisel plow with low angle 18" sweeps (duckfeet)
thes just flip the top few inches of soil over and don't do any damage.....they just control the weeds which could be a fire hazard if not addressed


we don't farm any crops........all are just for weed control as we have an issue with the following: and it is a never ending job
'prostrate knot grass' which grows all winter long and will go to seed by the end of may if not flipped
next comes the 'red rooted pig weed', 'thistle', and 'tumbleweed' which can get easily 4-6 feet tall if not turned over
and last comes the field bindweed (creeping jenny) in the fall the creeping jenny is the ugliest and if left grow a few days too long it really can suck trying to deal with it too the point of having to use a disc which i hate
we cannot do any spraying since there are about six shallow water wells in the area that we are protecting
this year we are gonna set the stroke control (depth) on the chisel plows a slight bit deeper from just under 4 inches to about 4 & 1/2" which might expose a few new finds

sorry not to derail your thread my friend ben, only just sayin', i hope you can find some more new spots this summer
without twitko and russy the diesel i could not do it......they are great

stevie b

 

[bsit1361]

Yes!! Well the farmer said no on the field I was heading to this weekend but offered me another deal. I go up to s. e. pa. in two weeks to help plow 30 acres of never before plowed land that's is right on the susquehanna. It's between two known sites and and has been timber forever. The fields around are known to produce points axes and everything else. My local fields have been plowed forever so any hardstone I find is either broken or scared to hell. Fingers crossed but I'm pretty sure ill have a nice haul once the rains come. He also said I will be the only one he will allow and he will chase off any one else. He has hundreds of acres so my foot is in the door by getting this first 30. Plus it's the first time the soil will ever have been turned!

 

[bravowhiskey]

good luck Ben...patience and perseverance.
As a youngun' growing up in N Iowa I helped shell corn and bale hay for a lot of farmers. It didn't pay well, but come fall I never lacked places to pheasant and deer hunt. Even gained trapping access.
Bring back the barter system.