Bullet Identification experts?

[Marko0916]

I was going thru some previous finds and came across these 3 bullets i found that are much different than the norm. i pull up.

Can anybody ID these?

 

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[NOLA_Ken]

Can't be much help without accurate measurements of the diameter.

 

[GrizLeeBear]

The first two look like older lead mini balls used in black powder. The third looks like a more modern brass covered bullet. It does not look fired, so it may be from a reloader.

 

[osage express]

Because they have crimp rings makes all three modern.Without the measurements it is difficult to say......The bottom one maybe a 30 cal wild guess though.Really guessing the bottom is from a 30 carbine 110 grain.FMJ I sure do a lot of guessing huh ...Osage

 

[pistol-pete]

Need measurements in thousands of an inch and weight in grains to id

 

[Marko0916]

Thanks for all your feedback. If its modern I won't spend any time on it. Still seeking something pre 1900's, whether it be a coin or a bullet. Thanks again

 

[GrizLeeBear]

Because they have crimp rings makes all three modern.Without the measurements it is difficult to say......The bottom one maybe a 30 cal wild guess though.Really guessing the bottom is from a 30 carbine 110 grain.FMJ I sure do a lot of guessing huh ...Osage

Older lead bullets have the same rings called Cannelures. They helped to make a good seal in the barrel. These groves were called "Tamisier ball grooves" and provided aerodynamic stability.

I have a number of CW era lead bullets with those same grooves. However, such lead black powder bullets have those grooves today as well. So, it is hard to tell by looking at pictures.

Tamisier - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Broken knee]

As others stated with out measurements? looking at them the first 2 look like 22's and#3 looks like a pistol rnd. HH
BK

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I'm thinking 20th century as #2 appears to have the "rolled" cannelure that indicates swaged vs. cast. Without dimensions or a size reference it is dfifficult to tell anything.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Marko0916 wrote:
> If its modern I won't spend any time on it. Still seeking something pre 1900's,
> whether it be a coin or a bullet.

Using the double-enlargement option here at TreasureNet, I can see that all three of your bullets have what is called a "reeded" groove (or more technically, a reeded cannelure). In this context "reeded" means having multiple tiny short parallel ridges in the body-groove on the bullet.

See the photo below for an example of a bullet with a "reeded" groove.

"Reeding" in the groove on a bullet wasn't done until approximately 1880, and did not become commonplace on American bullets until the first decade of the 1900s. So, all three of your bullets are no early than the 1880s and are 98% probably from sometime in the 20th-Century.

Despite what you heard, none of your bullets are Minie-balls. Minié ball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Absolutely NO 1800s-era Minie-balls had reeded grooves. The only ones which do are modern-era imitation Minie-balls made for blackpowder hobbyist game-hunting and target shooting.