Bullet ID

[fyrffytr1]

I am pretty sure this is a modern bullet but I still would like to know what it is.

 

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[fyrffytr1]

Weight.

 

[crashbandicoot]

I,ve seen a mold for that type of bullet,but can,t remember what it was for specifically,the weight is right for a cast 380 but the diam.is wrong,don,t see a sprue mark on the base either.I,ll look at some mold specs and see if I can get more.Conical black powder pistol bullet?

 

[Almy]

I'd guess .38-40 Winchester.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I agree with Almy. The .38-40/.38 WCF actually starts with a .401" lead bullet. The bore is slightly smaller so fired bullets have been squeezed down.

 

[crashbandicoot]

I won,t disagree,but how do you explain the light weight?I believe the 38-40 was usually loaded with a 180 grain bullet.I do know that it was chambered in pistols too so maybe this is a pistol load?Honest questions,not bullshat.I haven,t turned up any thing new myself.The diameter is spot on for 38-40.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Is it jacketed? The .40 S&W Glaser is a 115 gr bullet. Maybe you have someone's cast .40 S&W bullet? Or someone was playing around with a lighter alloy metal? Or it's a .38 (.357") that got smushed when it struck a semi-soft medium?

 

[crashbandicoot]

Not the OP charlie,but I can,t tell for sure if it,s jacketed what with all the stuff on it.The third pic looks like I see jacket in the rifling marks but my eyes are old,if it,s jacketed it appears to be full metal jacket,but again I can,t see on the bullet base if that,s lead showing.You may be on to something with the 40 S&W.I got hung up on the 38-40 thing.A stumper for me.

 

[fyrffytr1]

It is not jacketed. Solid lead. Let me double check the weight. I may have to re-calibrate my scale.

 

[fyrffytr1]

I re-calibrated my scale and still get almost the same weight; 121.1 grains.

 

[crashbandicoot]

I don,t know,the weight is what stumps me.I still lean to the theory it may be a conlcal black powder pistol bullet,think Josey Wales and his sleeve gun,but most of those used a round ball so I,m still stumped.I,ll do some more looking unless some one beats me to it..36 colt Navy is what I was thinking of.

 

[pistol-pete]

I"m going to say it;s probably a 41 Short Colt CF.. They were .396-.401" Dia. and usually a 130 grain blunt round nose bullet I don't have a fired bullet, however this loaded round looks a good bit the same.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

One other possibility is a .41 Extra Short Colt Centerfire. That had a 130 gr bullet weight that I can tell. Though the article below states a 126 gr actual weight.

https://www.oldammo.com/august08.htm

The .41 Short Rimfire - Remington Derringer load - also used a 130 gr bullet.

 

[fyrffytr1]

One other possibility is a .41 Extra Short Colt. That had a 130 gr bullet weight that I can tell. Though the article below states a 126 gr actual weight.

https://www.oldammo.com/august08.htm

Charlie. Thanks for the link. My bullet most closely resembles the .41 Short, the middle one in the picture. My books don't include the .41 short so I am not sure of the bullet specifications.

 

[crashbandicoot]

I think pete and charlie are on the right track,after a dead end on the .36 Navy I thought derringer,but havn,t looked for that.