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[Older The Better]

found this today and from what I can see it has no stamp, I know there is a chance its worn away but that would make it the first in about 100 casings ive found to do that. I'm wondering if there was a maker that didn't stamp their cartridges or if that is a sign of an early make.

 

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[Charlie P. (NY)]

Yes. Likely several. Also, sometimes with loose headspace firing the cartridge flattens the headstamp (some are faint to begin with).

Prior to 1878 Union Metallic made rimfires without a headstamp.

[FONT=&quot]The cartridges in the box, with their raised 'U' headstamps, pin its production date down a little more precisely to between 1877 and 1878, the two years that UMC employed this headstamp. Prior to this, their rimfire cartridges were[/FONT][FONT=&quot] unheadstamped; after 1878 they went about seven more years without a headstamp before the impressed 'U' that we are all so familiar with came into use in 1885, and continued to be used by UMC and and their successor Remington-UMC for the next hundred years or so.[/FONT]

THE CARTRIDGE COLLECTOR


And then there's this little guy: Flobert caps.

 

[Getter]

It looks a lot like this one I found in the peace river here in Arcadia Fl. I believe it is 41 cal. I also have an indentical 32. cal.

Sorry if the pic sucks, crappy laptop camera.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Yes. Likely several. Also, sometimes with loose headspace firing the cartridge flattens the headstamp (some are faint to begin with).

Prior to 1878 Union Metallic made rimfires without a headstamp.



THE CARTRIDGE COLLECTOR


And then there's this little guy: Flobert caps.

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Thanks for the picture of the Flobert, Charlie. I found the lead to one many years ago and now I know what the round looks like.

 

[Older The Better]

great thanks for the help, so just to wrap my head around it just a bit more, does anybody still make them without stamps or am I looking at 1870's-ish time frame

 

[trdking]

I don't know of any unstamped made today Not even blanks