Bullet and Gun

[djnelson2292]

Found this old looking gun and bullet in the same area the other day and was wondering how old/what type they were if possible? I have no knowledge of this stuff, just recently got into metal detecting, so far I just do it for the thrill but would really like to learn the history. The gun seems like it could be a toy but I have no clue. It's missing it's other "half". I ran it through a few hours of electrolysis but it's looking like it could use a little more cleaning. No letters or anything visible as far as I can tell. The handle does have a diamond type design on it though, which you can slightly see from one of the pictures.

The bullet has what looks like a lead plug inside it but the outside is brown. I was thinking it looked like an Enfield type bullet from the pictures I've seen, but like I said, I have no knowledge on this stuff.

Thanks!

 

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[TheCannonballGuy]

First... welcome to TreasureNet, and to the "What-Is-It?" forum -- the best place on the internet for getting the CORRECT identification of unknown objects. You bullet is definitely a 20th Century "copper-jacketed" bullet. It has a lead body which is almost entirely covered by the copper "jacket." (You may have heard of the movie "Full Metal Jacket" -- which is named for a similar type of bullet. You did not provide any measurement of your bullet, so I cannot be sure about what caliber it is. It looks like a .45-caliber for the Colt Army Model-1911 semiautomatic pistol and Thompson submachine gun (and some other firearms). But copper-jacketed bullets with the same shape as yours are made in other calibers, and for other firearms. They are still being manufactured today, so they are difficult to accurately time-date. Metal-jacketed bullets date from the 1880s through today. But the specific shape of yours is 20th Century through today.

 

[Hawkeye35]

National Pistol cast iron toy cap gun from the 1920's. Pic from ebay listing. National Toy Pistol Cap Gun Cast Iron 1920's Antique | eBay

 

[djnelson2292]

Thank you both!

That's a pretty sweet toy gun! I'm amazed you found it so quickly Hawkeye. Loving this forum so far :-)