Bugle lapel?

[alderan33]

Think this item affixes to an Infantry Cap but I'm not sure. I damaged it with the lesche because the ground was so @$&)@$? Hard. Thanks for looking.

 

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[DCMatt]

Correct. Kepi badge.

Pictured is one that is "Civl War Era".



DCMatt

 

[alderan33]

Awesome. Thanks Matt. Btw how are they held on to the cap? I found no fasteners on this one.

 

[DCMatt]

Two small wires were soldered on the back.



DCMatt

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Yes... Aldrean33's find is an 1851-to-1871 kepi (hat) insignia for US army Infantrymen.

No offense meant, Matt ...but the one in your photo is a Bannermann-era (or later) reproduction. All of the civil war period Kepi (hat) insignia for Enlisted-men's ranks had brass wire loops for attachment to the hat. When you see a simple "straight" iron wire for attachment on a "civil war" Enlisted-man's kepi insignia, it's a Bannerman-era or modernday reproduction. Sidenote: the Model-1872 kepi-insignia had straight brass wires.

That being said, please note that I specified the Enlisted-man's ranks (private, corporal, sargeant) version. The "false-embroidered" version for civil war era Officers had straight brass wire instead of loops.

Here are photos of the Enlisted-man's civil war era version, which always had brass wire loops.

 

[DCMatt]

No offense taken. Best to get it right and learn something. Thanks for the lesson.

DCMatt

 

[got2dig]

Think this item affixes to an Infantry Cap but I'm not sure. I damaged it with the lesche because the ground was so @$&)@$? Hard. Thanks for looking.

Your hunting horn look's to be the real thing can we see the back? There was lot's of variations of these and they were worn by infanty enlisted men.
Very nice find. I hate that the ground was so dry but that's part of the hunt. Now go get the mouth piece.

 

[skipp]

Greetings CannonballGuy. I agree with you that these insignias had had loops till 1871 for non officers. It always gets me that people try to sell hat insignias with wires and claim that these are civil war era. But here's a question I would like to ask. How is it with Regimental letters and Company numbers. To my knowledge even these had one to two loops ( depending on size of number and letter) to be civil war. But yet again, these too, are being sold from known dealers with wires and claim these to be civil war. I do realize that some civil war surpluses was reused and modified for later usage. Example for Indian War and so on. So therefore I could have an original civil war letter, number, insignia but modified for Indian war period.