Brass, Bullets, ????? from 1800s house site

[Indian Steve]

Howdy All, These were found at a home site that is from the early 1800s. I know that the one brass piece is part of a petcock. I am wondering if the thumb screw could be from a flintlock rifle? The little brass nurled piece has me stumped. Is the round brass piece part of a parasol? I believe the bullets are modern and one is a shotgun slug. Button is very light, possibly wood. Thanks Steve

 

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[civil_war22]

Round piece with notches looks to be a piece off a lighter.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Added photos.

Yes, the first photo shows an umbrella/parasol part.
2nd photo, appears to be a flintlock lockplate's jaw screw -- but I don't see a hole going sideways through the knob, which a jaw-screw is supposed to have. EDIT: Correcting the ID due to new information -- it is a furniture drawerpull-screw.
3rd photo, top row, right is part of a gas-valve.
4th and 5th photo, thumbstriker-wheel from a cigarette lighter. (Civil_war22 is right about it.)

 

[kuger]

Your first item is a Parasol hub
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/321303-brass-parasol-slides-i-just-don-t-see.html

 

[Indian Steve]

Thanks All, The lighter part makes good sense. The screw has a hole in one side. Should it go all the way thru? Thanks Again, steve

 

[tennessee]

CannonballGuy..........AWESOME!

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Indian Steve wrote:
> The screw has a hole in one side. Should it go all the way thru?

On some jaw-screws, it does, and on others, it doesn't. The presence of the hole in the knob tends to confirm it is indeed a flintlock musket lockplate's flint-holder jaw-screw.

 

[Indian Steve]

Thanks CannonballGuy, You actually solved another "what is it" that i had posted earlier. You had the answer on somebody elses post. It is a Model T throwout bearing holder. Thanks Again, steve

 

[taz42o]

Second item is a drawer pull screw.


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[TheCannonballGuy]

The evidence at Taz42o's link is pretty convincing. The Furniture Detective: Old Brass ? Or Is It? | WorthPoint
Now I'm not sure how we are going to be able to distinguish between lockplate jaw-screws and drawerpull mounting-screws.

I notice that on one of the drawerpull screws, the body just below the knob is square, but on the other one, that area is cylindrical. So, that particular characteristic won't help us distinguish between a jaw-screw and a drawerpull screw.

Does anybody here know if the hole in a jaw-screw's knob ALWAYS goes all the way through the knob?

 

[taz42o]

Drawer pull screws often do not have the hole all the way through.
While drawer screws can have a round or square shoulder I think jaw screws are always round.

 

[kuger]

...where is NYCharlie.....?

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

The hole in a top-jaw screw ALWAYS goes through. That is so a soldier/shooter can use a simple rod or pick to remove or tighen the flint (wrapped in sheet lead or leather) in the top jaw. They're good for 20 to 60 shots. Civilian arms were usually slotted for a turn-screw (aka screwdriver). In the military ranks only the Sergeants had a screwdriver as it was a flogging offense for a common soldier to tamper with a musket, and screwdrivers were not issued. U.S. Militia was less restricted as they often supplied their own weapons.



Slotted is as common.

Sometimes slotted AND with a hole.





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[TheCannonballGuy]

With Charlie_P.'s astute contribution of flintlock gun-parts knowledge, we now know that to be a flintlock lockplate's jaw-screw, the hole in the knob must go all the way through it. If not, it is a drawerpull screw. Thank you very much, Charlie. I will update my database with your information.

 

[CC Hunter]

With Charlie_P.'s astute contribution of flintlock gun-parts knowledge, we now know that to be a flintlock lockplate's jaw-screw, the hole in the knob must go all the way through it. If not, it is a drawer pull screw. Thank you very much, Charlie.

I will update my database with your information.

All of the flintlock hammer top jaw screws I have ever seen, were always made of steel. Drawer pull pommel screws on the other hand, are almost always brass on noted examples.

Here is a recent forum thread on the same topic:

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/342849-post-colonial-site-gives-up-mystery-find.html

CC Hunter

 

[NOLA_Ken]

A good rule of thumb on those type items is that if it is a squared shank it is definitely not a musket part.

 

[Indian Steve]

Thanks to All of You, This has been a very educational. I'll have to keep hunting for that thumbscrew. Thanks Again, Steve