Blue Quartz, Old Nail found at mine site

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Found this nail at an old mine shaft here in AZ, appears to be hand forged ! Any experts on these things got any info as far as age?????
Also above the mine shaft on the same Quartz vein is this Blueish Rock mixed in.....Any rock hounds about can give some input on what it could possibly be?
 

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pseudo malachite, is that copper or pyrite that appears as a speck in the blue stuff in the middle of the rock?
 

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I would say - Copper.
What were they mining?

Mike
 

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The first is a spike from narrow-gauge rail. The second looks like azurite.

Randy
 

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The first item looks like a rusted square nail, used up into the 40's I think. If you found it near a mine, I would guess it was nailed into place or dropped during its era of operation.

The mineral sample looks like chrysocolla bleeding onto quartz crystals and part of a feldspar specimen, all minerals associated with gold.

HH and gold luck to you.
 

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(pseudo malachite, is that copper or pyrite that appears as a speck in the blue stuff in the middle of the rock?)
Pyrite......just flake's off

(I would say - Copper.
What were they mining?

Mike)


Dont know what they were looking for at that particular spot ! it was only about 12 foot deep then a horizontal shaft going in about 5'.....thinking it was just a test hole. i do know that area is known for amethyst.

(The second looks like azurite. The mineral sample looks like chrysocolla bleeding onto quartz crystals and part of a feldspar specimen, all minerals associated with gold.)

Thanks everyone for the help......
 

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T, on this I'd have to agree with Ant about the chrysocolla. Really hard to tell sometimes from a pic, but either way, it's a copper mineral. Amethyst won't help you any on a quest for precious minerals. There is an old mine in the middle of four gold claims I own and couldn't figure out what they were after just looking at the tailings. Took several months of research to learn what they were mining , and as it turns out, they were after the small amethyst crystals as an industrial abrasive during the second WW. A Spanish mine in the area does sound promising, tho, but you have to know what they were after. Not long ago, I spent umpteen-million hours researching an old Spanish mine that hadn't been see in centuries, spent two full days hiking into the area thru some of the roughest country I've ever seen, and even spent a full day just getting thru one canyon along cliffs and a four inch wide deer path to get there only to find out that, the good news, the mine was close to where I thought it was, bad news, it wasn't a gold mine like I'd been left to believe, but a low grade silver mine. Found some cool relics around the mine since I'd packed my gold machine in there, but couldn't even find one rock in the tailings, either pile, worth hauling out. Sorry, said that wrong, one was a tailings pile, true, the other was an ore pile that had been hand sorted. In that area, there was a copper mine to one side, and a gold mine on the other, both later, all trending in the same direction, but several miles apart. A word to the wise about the Spanish back then. They never did any work of the work themselves, they always had slave labor. So, even tho there is an old Spanish mine, it doesn't mean that they dug there because it was the highest return per ton, only that they were finding something and what they did get was pretty much profit since it didn't cost them anything. I wish you luck and let us know how you did around the old mine.

Randy
 

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So i busted up a piece of this, after seeing the metallic formation in it i hit with my detector and it reads "SILVER"...........i take that with a grain of salt of course but it doesnt flake and carves rather easily !!!!!!!!!!!
Will have to hand this directly to someone that knows as pictures in this case are not worth a 1000 words :tongue3:
 

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Just because your machine says "silver", don't believe it. No matter what, there is no question it's some type of copper sulfide.
 

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AZ-Mtnman said:
Just because your machine says "silver", don't believe it. No matter what, there is no question it's some type of copper sulfide.

I never believe the read out on my detector.......... The signal was really strong and i got all kinds of excited......lol
 

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Oh, been there, done that. Just look at all the old rusted tin trash I dug recently in an old prospector camp that registered as silver. Didn't really post any pics of it, too sad to believe.
 

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I say that it's chrysocolla and lead and or lead sulfate. I would listen to AZ-Mtnman, he seems to know what he's talking about.

HH
 

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Ant said:
I say that it's chrysocolla and lead and or lead sulfate. I would listen to AZ-Mtnman, he seems to know what he's talking about.

HH

That i did !!! ......... since im rather new to digging in rocks on top of mountains rather then the crevices of stream beds I listened closely.

Thanks everyone for the info...........HH
 

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