Black eye for relic hunters.

[GibH]

Civil War battlefield is "active crime scene" - CNN.com

 

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[mindcrime1988]

It only takes a few to ruin it for the rest of us who abide by the law. Pretty sad and angry.

 

[steve1357]

It only takes a few to ruin it for the rest of us who abide by the law. Pretty sad and angry.

They always have plenty of money for red light cameras to generate revenue, but they can't afford one camera on the entrance road......

I hope they catch them, but I'll remain cynical and believe something else is going on that we aren't being told.

 

[HistoryStudent]

If he had filled his holes they might not have ever known

 

[NHBandit]

If he had filled his holes they might not have ever known

So stealing is ok with you as long as you don't get caught ? I predict you're in for a rude awakening....

 

[HistoryStudent]

Uh. That wasn't even close to what I said.

 

[boogeyman]

We all know that CNN is about the biggest producer of fake - under researched unverified junk out there. Don't we? Hope so. Personally I believe 00.0001% of their stuff.

 

[rvosburg]

My thoughts exactly boogeyman. CNN (I kills me to even type the letters) is the most pitiful, unprofessional bunch of useless so called Media people out there. I believe zero of anything they report, but then I would shoot myself in the head before I ever watched that channel anyway. I bet anything that they embellished the story quite a bit

We all know that CNN is about the biggest producer of fake - under researched unverified junk out there. Don't we? Hope so. Personally I believe 00.0001% of their stuff.

 

[pulltabfelix]

My thoughts exactly boogeyman. CNN (I kills me to even type the letters) is the most pitiful, unprofessional bunch of useless so called Media people out there. I believe zero of anything they report, but then I would shoot myself in the head before I ever watched that channel anyway. I bet anything that they embellished the story quite a bit

Embellished? Heck, I would not put it past a cnn reporter to go out and dig those holes and then call in a report to the park service and then cover the fake story just to get some headline news.

There are not enough bad words to describe cnn.

 

[smokeythecat]

Only a lowlife scum digs on property without permission! ANY property! On Federal land, they catch you, you are toast. In Maryland, it's trespass, 1st time if its not posted all they can do is make you leave UNLESS you made tire tracks, left a hole, etc, then it's a misdemeanor for vandalism. If it's posted and you dig you can get arrested.

I am very much against trespassing. It's soooo easy to get permissions (do not wear camo when approaching a landowner), and on the great occasion someone says no, be nice!

 

[KeyaPaha]

Article from 2016 and not one follow up story since.

 

[civil_war22]

This happened in Pea Ridge at the battlefield. A guy was caught by a NPS ranger with a thermal imaging scope. Caught the idiot out in the meadow from over 100 yards out. The dude had a bucket full of bullets, unexploded ordinances, buckles, and other stuff. He went to federal pen for it. Plus the park service took his truck, Metal detector, gun, and everything he had.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

This happened in Pea Ridge at the battlefield. A guy was caught by a NPS ranger with a thermal imaging scope. Caught the idiot out in the meadow from over 100 yards out. The dude had a bucket full of bullets, unexploded ordinances, buckles, and other stuff. He went to federal pen for it. Plus the park service took his truck, Metal detector, gun, and everything he had.

Good, hope they keep him in Federal Penitentiary for awhile too.

 

[civil_war22]

Good, hope they keep him in Federal Penitentiary for awhile too.

I hope they do too. When I worked for the sheriffs office I had a pair of night vision binoculars like those that mount to a helmet, and also a military surplus thermal imaging periscope. You wouldn’t believe how many times idiots think they can hide in the weeds. 90% of law enforcement don’t have them, i was just lucky enough to know some guys at the old camp Chaffee that was selling off military surplus to law enforcement. I bought a $3,000 periscope for $150, so I couldn’t complain.

 

[A2coins]

Black eye and bloody nose just takes one

 

[Tiredman]

I use to hunt at night all the time. Reduced background noice, noisy people intruding on my hobby and various other reasons. Back in those days folks would not be happy about being honest about telling about night hunting.

 

[civil_war22]

I use to hunt at night all the time. Reduced background noice, noisy people intruding on my hobby and various other reasons. Back in those days folks would not be happy about being honest about telling about night hunting.

We used to do a lot of night hunting as well. On our old farm where the union campsite was we had our property plus our neighbors dads, so we would hunt his dads at night because all we had to do was simply walk across my parents garden, and cross the barbed wire fence. Only reason we hunted his at night was because we didn’t have the protection from prying eyes of drivers going by. On more than one occasion we had to run off folks in the dead of night trying to detect on our parents 40 acres. I don’t know how many times our dog would start barking cause she could hear, smell, and see them across the valley, and by the time we got on the four wheeler, and zipped across there they would either be scrambling down the hill to get in their car or we’d catch them by cutting them off across the driveway, and meeting them at their car that was parked out off the side of the dirt road. Our property was a well known campsite to many of the locals in the area, but the old woman who’d owned it since the original owner had it that lived in the old haunted two story field hospital from the civil war, wouldn’t let anyone detect out there, and they had owned it 30+ years back when my family bought it in the early 90’s. The old man who owned the rent house that was a field hospital was the son of one of the original owner who had the farm taken over by union troops, and used as a hospital, and when they moved out, the wife, and kids had to clean up the house because they had left the entire place disheveled, and grotesque from all the blood on the floors to bloody clothing. There was two trees in particular that sat on that property by the rent house and were close enough to one another that it could have been used as a clothes line. There were probably 30 buttons we found in between those two trees. The old oaks were so big that both of us couldn’t wrap our arms around it and touch the others hands. It was nice hearing the second hand account from the lady who’d spoke to the old man who was in his 90’s that lived in that house who’d tell her the stories of where the soldiers were, as well as where they dumped their bottles, clothing, and other goods. The property had a fresh water spring at the bottom of the hill, and the confederate scouts saw it from the old military road, and got out there and blew up the rock, and surrounding ground of where the spring was in the middle of the night.

 

[jeff of pa]

Park officials have not described what type of items or relics may have been targeted. They have not confirmed whether anything was removed

if an Animal Digs a Hole & Removes a Grub Worm
Was anything Illegal done ?

if you see a hole in the ground, Does that automatically mean a Relic/Treasure was there ?

Was it a Skunk, A Detectorist, a Night Stalker Or was it Big Foot ?
at this point it could have been all or neither.
.
I see this was from 2006 so I Didn't read all .

Was there a Proven Crime & Admission ?

Just like the Fictional Tree Falling in the woods.
If no one Knows there was anything there, Is it Gone ?
or is it just a hole ?

 

[civil_war22]

if an Animal Digs a Hole & Removes a Grub Worm
Was anything Illegal done ?

if you see a hole in the ground, Does that automatically mean a Relic/Treasure was there ?

Was it a Skunk, A Detectorist, a Night Stalker Or was it Big Foot ?
at this point it could have been all or neither.
.
I see this was from 2006 so I Didn't read all .

Was there a Proven Crime & Admission ?

Just like the Fictional Tree Falling in the woods.
If no one Knows there was anything there, Is it Gone ?
or is it just a hole ?

I feel the same way as you, it could have been a skunk, dog, armadillo, a great many of things. I’ve gone to the National Historical Site in Fort Smith, and found a piece of a child’s porcelain head that a mole had dug up from going around the old 1830’s original Fort site. I brought the piece I had found to the museum there, and it matched the body of a porcelain doll missing her head. I then had park officials question me, how I located it, when I “dug” it up. I explained to them it was lying on top of the ground, and they began to act as if I was lying, all the while I’m sitting here in my Police Dept uniform, and had only been over there because I was on my lunch break, and liked looking across the River to see the area of Indian Territory where General Zachary Taylor commanded his forces to build a Fort along the river in Arkansas to keep Indians from coming to Arkansas, for fear of they might invade them. Back to the story as they continued to harass me, and question me about it, I told them if they don’t believe me then go look for themselves where I found it, and we walked to the original fort site where the General, and his commanders quarters were at is where I found it. As we walked there they saw the moles holes, several armadillo, raccoon holes, and in their heads they believed someone had been over there digging, and with all my years of trapping, and hunting experience you can tell a hole where animals root around for whatever it is in the dirt they are trying to get.

They finally started to see my point, after I had to get on my phone, and show them different animal holes that had been dug while they were foraging for food. Sadly they would have probably went over there when they mowed, and seen them, and either started a huge conspiracy theory, or the parks dept maintenance man would have told them they are all nuts, and them holes are there all the time.

 

[colonial relic hunter]

It's amazing to me in this day of age that people still do this knowing what will happen to you and plus what it does for the hobby.. :>(