Belleek Neptune 7958

Ristina121

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Hi all new here. I have had this set for 40 years, It was to my knowledge originally a gift to my late grandparents for their wedding in the early 1900. This is the only history I have on it. It could be Neptune Belleek. Underside markings on cups or saucers are Black or brown spot on individual pieces with the number 7958 imprinted faded so hard to see. Fragile so was always kept and never used. Would appreciate any information on same. It is a full set 17 piecies
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Very pretty and, although collectable in its own rite, I don’t think this is a Belleek piece. Although the style and colour of the mark vary with time period, their pieces are always trademarked… even the early pieces. Like this Neptune pattern cup for example (“second period” green mark):

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Belleek’s export business was so successful that, during the first part of the 1900s, their pieces were heavily copied by American producers. Belleek were well aware of this and one of their advertising straplines (in relation to the presence of their trademark) became “Without Which None Is Genuine”. Copyists responded by faking their trademarks too. The copies and fakes are often distinguished by being thicker, with drips or flaws in the glaze, and a lack of subtlety in the colour gradations of the pearly sheen.

I would think a full set would still be highly desirable to a collector, despite being a copy.
 

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Something tells me(shiny rainbow gloss effect type of glass is much more modern) they are French and much newer than you think, may be called "Federal Milk Glass" 1960's-80's?
 

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