Beginner needs help identifying Japanese hallmark....

[debbied]

I am a beginner and I'm having a difficult (and discouraging) time trying to figure out who the hallmark is for on this little Japanese porcelain ashtray I have. It measures about 4 1/4" in diameter. Bottom says Registered Trade Mark JAPAN and has a crown with an NC or CN underneath it. Can anyone enlighten me? Or maybe even point me in another direction? I appreciate any input.

 

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[Fast_Dave]

First, I'll give credit where it's due. I had a heck of a time finding anything until I hit this website:
http://www.gotheborg.com/marks/index_jap_marks.htm

The best match for your trademark is the Ucagco(United China and Glass Company). The crown trademark seems to be used mostly after WWII. It might signify ties to a British or other foreign power. There's a second company, Nagoya Seito Sho, that used a crown and the N&Co trademark, but the pieces I could find for them seem to be marked Nippon rather than Japan. I hope this gives you a direction to look. The top picture is the Nagoya trademark, the bottom is the Ucagco.

 

[debbied]

I'd already been to the Gothborg website before I posted the message and found both of those companies. I've been all over the internet and really can't find anything else. I was hoping there was an expert out there that could tell me definately what company this is. I do appreciate your response though!

 

[Montana Jim]

Just some good reading...

http://www.mygrannysatticantiques.com/html/porcelain_pottery_china_marks_2.htm

 

[La Beep]

Nagoya Seito Sho - N&Co, Nagoya, Nippon - Narumi Seito Sho - Meito China
In 1908 Nagoya Seito Sho Company was founded by Kotero Asukai, former employee of Noritake. Other Noritake artisans were soon to follow to the new company why this porcelain might bear a close resemblance to Noritake porcelain. Their wares was also market Meito China. During the WWII the company was sold and the name changed to Narumi Seito Sho. The Meito China mark continued to be used after WWII with variations in the crown logo mark. Some porcelain with Meito China marks are found with the addition "Made in occupied Japan".

 

[debbied]

Thank you! I've bookmarked that website.

 

[redstar]

This is not Nippon. It is newer way after occupied Japan. Probably bought in a shop in New Jersey for tourist trade.

 

[surf]

Hello Debbie,

Welcome to TNet, and thanks for showing us your bowl. It looks post war to me. Here's another precinct heard from: eBay Guides - Camille Naudot porcelains-misidentification

"So what are these pieces that bear a similar mark but not the style of Camille Naudot's work? This NC (or CN) mark is documented to be on exports from Japan after WWII. The mark, impressed, printed or scratched, is found on pieces by many different makers (Miyao/Py, Maruri, Kowa Toki (figures marked with KW before numbers) and others) and many different importers/exporters (lefton, esd, ardalt (often with AA before the model number), l'amour, ucagco, coronet, sadek, acme, crown shafford, tilso and others). Naudot did not use a printed or impressed mark or printed or impressed model numbers with his mark. To this date no one has documented what this mark means. Are these pieces fake or misleading? No, as Naudot did not produce anything like these figures, they are not fakes or reproductions and since Naudot is in reality a very obscure company, the Japanese would unlikely be copying his company'smark. It must be taken that the NC mark on Japanese porcelains is simply a coincidence...

One guide does get the Japanese origin correct for this mark-The World of Head Vase Planters by Mike Posgay and Ian Warner, 1992. However, as the rest of us, they can only hypothesize the meaning of the mark."

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