Before metal detectors.

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How did ppl just probe the ground was there a special technique to it or did they really just pick a random spot and start probing away. Just seems like you would waste alot of time hunting coins and jewelry that way but if effective i wonder if you can probe where you can't detect?
 

There was a "golden age" of bottle digging in the late 1950s and through the 1960s. I know a guy who was bottle digging starting in the late 1950s, before metal detectors (well, at least before they were any good, etc.... for individual coins). He said they went around old ruins sites with their bottle probes not only looking for bottle dumps (outhouse pits), but also just for any other anomolies to investigate. Eg.: thinking perhaps they'd find purposefully buried jars or boxes or whatever. But it wasn't meant to find individual coins.

Another "pre metal detector" type of TH'ing I heard of, that WAS for individual coins, was how some dense use beach environments were actually sifted. It became sport to, for example, go underneath the Coney Island Boardwalk, set up a rocker-box sifter, and just spend all day shovelling sand through the screens. That was in the 1940s and '50s I believe. And I suppose since detectors hadn't been invented yet (that could find individual coins anyhow), and since the shear volume of people-traffic on a zone like that is immense, apparently those sifter people did good enough to make it worth their while.
 

Divining rod lol
 

Toms observations are correct.
I had not thought on the board walk sifters in a long time :) Read about it as a kid. hahh!

Prior to metal detectors treasure hunters, whether it was for bottles or money, used their heads and investigated area's of interest. Probes, shovels and sifters were the only way to go about reliably recovering items of interest. Very much like how archeologist's go about digging up history. There were even cache hunters way back when and thru research, rumor, investigation and hard work some success was made. Prospecting is also a form of treasure hunting and its been around for quite a long time.

As to dowsing or witching for treasure~ that has been tried too and is still practiced. Due to the skeptical nature of such recoveries its hard to say whether it works well or not. My own experience says the phenomena is real. However its very time consuming and pretty impractical unless you have a lot of time on your hands and are already pretty darn sure what your looking for is in fact where your looking for it. Hehh hehh, one can say if you dig enough holes you'll eventually find something anywhere where there is something to be found. ~ better off just sifting ;)
 

A close friend of my parents, Charlie S., was a treasure hunter/prospector. At the time he seemed to me that he was a lot older than my parents, but I was pre-teen, and I have no idea of his actual age. I know he was the man that found the jade at Willow Creek on hiway 1 in California. It's now called "Jade Cove." Side note, there is a ledge of jade up stream from the hiway, and Charlie tried to mine it using powder. The explosion shattered or fractured the rock, making it look milky, totally ruining the jade, which was why there was some talk at the time that the jade from there was no good, which has since been proved wrong. My brother paid for his diving equipment, tanks etc. by recovering jade under the ocean at the mouth of Willow Creek. That's beside the point, Charlie did have a mine or two, and it seemed like all he could talk about was mining gold and searching for treasure. Charlie was always just an inch or two away from Joaquin Murrieta's treasure. I never got to go with him on a hunt, but I sat very quietly and absorbed everything he said, and he used a probe, I assume one long enough to be driven deeply into the ground. What I never understood was if he hit a rock, did he dig it up. Of course I couldn't ask, because I would have been sent away. Children were seen, not heard in our household at that time. Anyhow, Charlie had found the signs carved into the trees and rocks that led him to the spot. When he passed away, it didn't seem to me that he had a lot of money, so I don't think he ever found it, but he was using a probe hunting for the treasure chest.
 

Dogs are used to find things, not sure if they had them sniffing out treasure or gold back then, but maybe.
 

A close friend of my parents, Charlie S., was a treasure hunter/prospector. At the time he seemed to me that he was a lot older than my parents, but I was pre-teen, and I have no idea of his actual age. I know he was the man that found the jade at Willow Creek on hiway 1 in California. It's now called "Jade Cove." Side note, there is a ledge of jade up stream from the hiway, and Charlie tried to mine it using powder. The explosion shattered or fractured the rock, making it look milky, totally ruining the jade, which was why there was some talk at the time that the jade from there was no good, which has since been proved wrong. My brother paid for his diving equipment, tanks etc. by recovering jade under the ocean at the mouth of Willow Creek. That's beside the point, Charlie did have a mine or two, and it seemed like all he could talk about was mining gold and searching for treasure. Charlie was always just an inch or two away from Joaquin Murrieta's treasure. I never got to go with him on a hunt, but I sat very quietly and absorbed everything he said, and he used a probe, I assume one long enough to be driven deeply into the ground. What I never understood was if he hit a rock, did he dig it up. Of course I couldn't ask, because I would have been sent away. Children were seen, not heard in our household at that time. Anyhow, Charlie had found the signs carved into the trees and rocks that led him to the spot. When he passed away, it didn't seem to me that he had a lot of money, so I don't think he ever found it, but he was using a probe hunting for the treasure chest.

Do you know where the area is and have you ever been able to there with a metal detector?
 

a side note about sifting
Two years ago I left my mountain in the dead of winter to camp and detect in the high desert in so.cal.I would cruise all over on my quad and hunt old mining,quarry and footings.I stumbled upon a long ago burnt down homesite.Not much to see but could tell it was a home site.There were so many signals everywhere(even hundreds of feet in all directions)that detecting even with sniper coil was super tough if not impossible.I did dig 3 silver jewelry pieces the first hunt tho.
I built a sifter box that night a called my hunting buddy,sure seemed like I was on to something.By noon the next day we were all over it.team sifting top softer material in about 10' by 10'squares then detecting the squares.We have been back prolly 30 times and have camped on site several trips.Most of the stuff we pull out is from sifting.

We will never know what kind of nut job lived there but he had no love for silver or coins in general.We have pulled several hundred pieces of jewelry,much of it mangled.A couple dozen silver coins...some of the quarters were intentionally domed and made into buttons.couple dozen foriegn coins.a key date and mint indian.clay marbles,military buttons and medals.has to be nearly 40 buffaloes.some also made into buttons.We place the activity from just before depression untill mid 40s.Our best guess.Everything good seems to have been dumped on purpose,the spots are loaded,then just trash....then bam its on again....then trash.

the point of this way too long post.....sifting.I am always more than willing to break out a sifter where I can and should.Its amazingly efficient.
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oops...double posted
 

If you wanted coin you just pulled a scarf over your nose and held up folks with a flintlock pistol.

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What about those strange treasure chests behind churches full of bones most have at least one ring or necklace lol.
 

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