Bayonet

[fyrffytr1]

Can anyone ID this bayonet dug at a civil war camp in Maryland back in the 1980s? There is a rib on the top and bottom of the blade. The socket measures about .76" inside diameter at the left end in picture two and tapers to about .71" at the right end. It was found with 2"s of the tip sticking up out of the ground. I have more angles of the socket if needed. Thanks for any and all help.

 

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[Retired Sarge]

Not a rib, but a cruciform bayonet. The key to the ID might be the angled slot for the front site. I'll see what I can find.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

The diagonal stud opening is a give-away. It's an Austrian Lorenz pattern bayonet.

https://www.bygoneblades.com/buy-austrian-m1854-lorenz-rifle-socket-bayonet

 

[Retired Sarge]

Possibly an 1845 Austrian Lorenz bayonet, missing it's lockring. See below link for additional pictures of it for comparison.

https://stewartsmilitaryantiques.co...orenz-jager-carbine-bayonet.26848.archive.htm

 

[fyrffytr1]

Thanks for the quick replies. After going to the links I found that this could be a confederate bayonet. That makes it extra special to me. It was part of the collection that came from my brother Joe.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

I agree with Charlie_P.'s declaration (and ffuries' guess) that it is an Austrian Lorenz bayonet. The Confederacy imported a lot of them for use with the Austrian rifles they also bought. Most that type have been dug at Atlanta Campaign sites, because Joe Johnston's Army of Tennessee got most of the CSA-imported Austrian rifles. (I dug one, 40-something years ago, alongside a Confederate supply-road behind Kennesaw Mountain GA.) It's a "fairly scarce" bayonet, and quite unusual to dig one in Maryland... so, congratulations.

 

[Mekong Mike]

Awesome find.
I don't know how they did it, attach bayonets to rifles and stab the enemy in hand to hand combat.
Honestly men if I lived back then, just give me a horse and a rifle and I'm headed west.

 

[fyrffytr1]

I agree with Charlie_P.'s declaration (and ffuries' guess) that it is an Austrian Lorenz bayonet. The Confederacy imported a lot of them for use with the Austrian rifles they also bought. Most that type have been dug at Atlanta Campaign sites, because Joe Johnston's Army of Tennessee got most of the CSA-imported Austrian rifles. (I dug one, 40-something years ago, alongside a Confederate supply-road behind Kennesaw Mountain GA.) It's a "fairly scarce" bayonet, and quite unusual to dig one in Maryland... so, congratulations.

I remember my brother telling me this came from a Confederate camp site on the Lietersburg Pike in Hagerstown, Md.

 

[civil_war22]

I’ve got one. Found it in Lowell, AR at a confederate camp, that was overtaken by the union army during the winter.

 

[Retired Sarge]

I remember my brother telling me this came from a Confederate camp site on the Lietersburg Pike in Hagerstown, Md.

Hagerstown, MD, that is where my wife is from.

 

[A2coins]

Great relic and info on that that's a great piece of history wow bet it will display well

 

[Rookster]

Great find and ID from the guys. Congratulations

 

[fyrffytr1]

Hagerstown, MD, that is where my wife is from.

I was born and raised there until I turned 18 and joined the Navy in 1968. I am guessing you are a good bit younger than me. I also noticed that you are in Panama City. I am about 100 miles north in Leesburg, Ga.

 

[trdking]

The 4 sided bayonets became non war worthy after WW1 They were not used because they made holes that could not be closed up. Too deadly if that makes any sense

 

[Retired Sarge]

I was born and raised there until I turned 18 and joined the Navy in 1968. I am guessing you are a good bit younger than me. I also noticed that you are in Panama City. I am about 100 miles north in Leesburg, Ga.

Sent a PM, but yeah a tad bit younger than you.......I was born in 66. My inlaws were born and raised in Hagerstown also, and my FIL got out of there by joining the AF, and moved back in Jan 2001.