Bayonet questions

[ModernMiner]

A few questions on bayonets used during the CW.

1) If you were looking down the length of the bayonet, were there diamond shaped or triangular? (see pictures)

2) What materials were CW bayonets made of (iron, brass)?

Thanks,
MM

 

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[sneaky6]

Miner,

I am no authority on the matter, but the one I have is triangular. It is definitely not brass by the way. Mine is steel. Good luck!!

Sneaky6

 

[fortbball9]

Miner,

I am no authority on the matter, but the one I have is triangular. It is definitely not brass by the way. Mine is steel. Good luck!!

Sneaky6

I also agree

fortbball9

 

[ModernMiner]

Thanks guys.
I had found a diamond shaped length of steel at one of my CW sites this week and was hoping.
-MM-

 

[mlhudson]

WELL MM,
BOUT ALL I CAN TELL YA IS THE ONE I HAVE IS "STEEL" ABOUT 19" LONG, IN THE SHAPE OF A TRIANGLE WITH A SLIGHT CURVE FROM THE TIP TO HILT

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LARGE BORE 69. CAL. ( 1816 ) FRICTION TYPE BAYONET WOTHOUT LOCK RING . THEY ARE NOMALY MADE OF STEEL . AND THERE ARE BRASS ONES , TOO. NOT SURE IF THEY WHERE USED DURING " CW "

SORRY I COULDN'T BE, MORE HELP

KEEPA DIGGIN

MLHUDSON

 

[ModernMiner]

Thanks for the info ML.
Man, you have quite the collection going there. GREAT relics!
Here is a picture if the piece I dug. I know CW troops camped on this property I detect at, so I was hoping any of these rusty finds were CW related. I'm pretty sure all the RR spikes I find in that flat field were used as tent stakes.
Thanks,
MM

 

[BuckleBoy]

I'll take "triangular" and "steel" for 500, Alex

 

[ModernMiner]

I'll take "triangular" and "steel" for 500, Alex

Is that your final answer?

 

[BuckleBoy]

I'll take "triangular" and "steel" for 500, Alex

Is that your final answer?

You betcha.

 

[Tnmountains]

Could it have been a picket pin to hold your horse at night??

 

[BuckleBoy]

Could it have been a picket pin to hold your horse at night??

Could be...but the realist in me also thinks that's a tough sell, without the top part/ring attached to the dug piece.

 

[dkw]

Dang, It's really hard to get good pics to show the shape of a bayonet. The one I found is flat on the top and triangular with sloping sides on the bottom.

Whole bayonet


Top to bottom difference


Top


bottom

 

[ModernMiner]

DKW,
Those pictures are just fine. Actually they show the actual shape very well. Thanks for posting those.
Awesome find by the way.
-MM-

 

[civil war hunter]

OMG! i found one of those today the thing your pointing at! cool!

Thanks for the info ML.
Man, you have quite the collection going there. GREAT relics!
Here is a picture if the piece I dug. I know CW troops camped on this property I detect at, so I was hoping any of these rusty finds were CW related. I'm pretty sure all the RR spikes I find in that flat field were used as tent stakes.
Thanks,
MM

 

[civil war hunter]

Is it it hope the pics arent too bad. Its the size of a golf tee.

Thanks for the info ML.
Man, you have quite the collection going there. GREAT relics!
Here is a picture if the piece I dug. I know CW troops camped on this property I detect at, so I was hoping any of these rusty finds were CW related. I'm pretty sure all the RR spikes I find in that flat field were used as tent stakes.
Thanks,
MM

 

[rebelfirefighter07]

If you've found a diamond shaped piece of steel don't lose all hope!! The bayonets that fit on enfield and springfield rifles were in fact triangluar. The Confederate Government purchased a very very large number of Austrian Lorenz rifles that used diamond shaped bayonets instead of triangular. The socket was also different. Instead of sliding straight down on the front sight and then turning to lock the Lorenz bayonet rotates down on the front sight then locks.

 

[ModernMiner]

If you've found a diamond shaped piece of steel don't lose all hope!! The bayonets that fit on enfield and springfield rifles were in fact triangluar. The Confederate Government purchased a very very large number of Austrian Lorenz rifles that used diamond shaped bayonets instead of triangular. The socket was also different. Instead of sliding straight down on the front sight and then turning to lock the Lorenz bayonet rotates down on the front sight then locks.

RF,
That is great info. It's funny you should mention Austrian. I dug a .69 bullet at that same property a while back, and never got it ID'd.
Recently I ran it by a TN member and he mentioned it looked like an Austrian .69.
Attached are a few pictures.
What do you folks think. Same bullet?
Could this bullet be tied to that kind of Austrian rifle perhaps?
Thanks for any input,
MM

 

[La Beep]

It was a mean time... diamond shaped or triangular were used because 1. strength and 2. the wounds don't close easy. Something to think about.

 

[ModernMiner]

It was a mean time... diamond shaped or triangular were used because 1. strength and 2. the wounds don't close easy. Something to think about.

La Beep,
Thanks for that info.
-MM-

 

[Tnmountains]

If you've found a diamond shaped piece of steel don't lose all hope!! The bayonets that fit on enfield and springfield rifles were in fact triangluar. The Confederate Government purchased a very very large number of Austrian Lorenz rifles that used diamond shaped bayonets instead of triangular. The socket was also different. Instead of sliding straight down on the front sight and then turning to lock the Lorenz bayonet rotates down on the front sight then locks.

I think I have a bullet like that somewhere?
RF,
That is great info. It's funny you should mention Austrian. I dug a .69 bullet at that same property a while back, and never got it ID'd.
Recently I ran it by a TN member and he mentioned it looked like an Austrian .69.
Attached are a few pictures.
What do you folks think. Same bullet?
Could this bullet be tied to that kind of Austrian rifle perhaps?
Thanks for any input,
MM