Back from a hiatus to a "surprise"

[cjon455]

Hey guys, been a bit since ive been out with the heat, my new job and preperations for the state licensing exam I had to take. Went to my spot that I nabbed 71 wheats and 3 silvers a few weeks back today with my son. We brought the atpro and ace350 and just thought we'd grid the heck outta the yard, I dont know if you guys remember me saying the neighbor attempted to kick me out and I got that reversed by the landlord but I think they sabatoged the yard. Both our detectors would not shut up with worthless chatter from the second we hit the back yard, This makes NO SENSE because when i first hit this place the only noise i was getting was true targets, no interference or anything. The tenant who got me permission said he wouldnt be surprised if they threw stuff in the yard to make the detectors go nuts, my only question is, what the heck could cause that that i couldnt discriminate out?? I didnt see any obvious recent drops or anything. we were at a park before and they both worked fine, and a small park after and still no chatter. Im convinced that loser tampered with my hotspot. We were able to pull some targets from the yard amongst the background noise which was getting pretty unbearable in the sweltering heat. The bangle bracelet is marked india inside but no silver markings. Im confused because if it was aluminum shouldnt in be bendable? I thought the lock was pretty cool too. Just felt good to be back out after a couple week break Thanks for looking and HH!!

 

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[vpnavy]

Is that "super log" (what's left of) a lock cjon455? Thanks for sharing...

 

[arrowheadted]

Possible.... If you get 2 At Pros within 20 feet of each other and they are running on the same frequency it is impossible to detect. You may try cycling through your 4 frequency's on the At pro to see if that makes a difference. The ace 350 may be a match to one of the 4 on the Pro and creating interference.

 

[cjon455]

Is that "super log" (what's left of) a lock cjon455? Thanks for sharing...

yes but its actually Super Loc, i think its old, didnt look it up yet but that thing was deeeeeeeep, like 10"

 

[cjon455]

Possible.... If you get 2 At Pros within 20 feet of each other and they are running on the same frequency it is impossible to detect. You may try cycling through your 4 frequency's on the At pro to see if that makes a difference. The ace 350 may be a match to one of the 4 on the Pro and creating interference.

Thanks for the tip, but i actually tried that. I put the pro in the trunk and tried the 350 and vice versa, i dunno, the past two times i hit the yard there was a little chatter, this time it was unbearable, and it was everywhere

 

[Qball]

You could be having electro magnetic interference. Sometimes I can swing m y coil in a location no problem other times the chatter drives me nuts. Air conditioners, powertools, appliances, arc welders and such can cause real problems. Also the time of day can matter, that is why, I tend to search early in the morning fewer cars, cell phone transmissions etc. Or your detectors could be talking to each other. Just a thought

 

[Erik in NJ]

Invisible Fence will drive my SE Pro nuts!

 

[Zodiacdiverdave]

Like Eric said, an invisible fence will do it but if your friends wanted to keep you out then they may have seeded the yard with metal shavings or iron filings. If they work in a machine shop they would have access to this type of materail.
As for your bangel, if it is made from AL then it would be fairly light. AL comes in many different alloys and can be quite flexable or very stiff and brittle.
ZDD

 

[Erik in NJ]

Like Eric said, an invisible fence will do it but if your friends wanted to keep you out then they may have seeded the yard with metal shavings or iron filings. If they work in a machine shop they would have access to this type of materail.
As for your bangel, if it is made from AL then it would be fairly light. AL comes in many different alloys and can be quite flexable or very stiff and brittle.
ZDD

I have also heard of archaeologists scattering many tiny copper washers to ruin a site for detectorists. But Invisible Fence or some form of EMI is most likely.

 

[wainzoid]

I imagine a pack of bb gun bb's would play havoc? !?!?

 

[joshua2]

That's a nice one

 

[WHADIFIND]

Thanks for the tip, but i actually tried that. I put the pro in the trunk and tried the 350 and vice versa, i dunno, the past two times i hit the yard there was a little chatter, this time it was unbearable, and it was everywhere

A few things come to mind.

First of all, is this chatter the result of stuff on/in the ground or is it because of electro-magnetic interference in the air?

1.) Have you tried to pinpoint any of the chatter?
2.) Have you tried holding your detector up off the ground to see if the chatter stays?
3.) Have you actually tried to change the frequencies on your AT-Pro to see if there's a difference?
4.) Are their heavy overhead electric lines in the area?
5.) Have you tried to move the sensitivity down until the chatter stops?
6.) Does the numbers change a lot especially the faster you move the head?
7.) If there is just a couple vdi numbers involved, notch them out.
8.) One last thing. If you turn on the machine, and NOT move it at all, does the chatter still happen?

Hope one of those helps to figure it out.
Keep on keepin' on.

HH!

 

[WHADIFIND]

I have also heard of archaeologists scattering many tiny copper washers to ruin a site for detectorists. But Invisible Fence or some form of EMI is most likely.

Wouldn't bother us, we'd just dig EVERYthing! LOL

HH!

 

[cjon455]

A few things come to mind.

First of all, is this chatter the result of stuff on/in the ground or is it because of electro-magnetic interference in the air?

1.) Have you tried to pinpoint any of the chatter?
2.) Have you tried holding your detector up off the ground to see if the chatter stays?
3.) Have you actually tried to change the frequencies on your AT-Pro to see if there's a difference?
4.) Are their heavy overhead electric lines in the area?
5.) Have you tried to move the sensitivity down until the chatter stops?
6.) Does the numbers change a lot especially the faster you move the head?
7.) If there is just a couple vdi numbers involved, notch them out.
8.) One last thing. If you turn on the machine, and NOT move it at all, does the chatter still happen?

Hope one of those helps to figure it out.
Keep on keepin' on.

HH!

Ill try to answer 1 thru 8 and maybe you can help me determine whats going on

1. yes i tried to pinpoint the chatter to no avail
2. didnt try to hold the detector up, but that is a good idea
3. i used all 3 modes in pro and std and had chatter
4. there are overhead lines but not directly overhead of the site
5. i gotta nock the sensitivity down 3 notches for it to stop (dont you lose depth when you do this?)
6. yes yes yes and definately yes, it was hard to keep up w/ the numbers
7. the numbers were so scattered it was hard to notch em out, i couldnt tell how many there were
8. and yes absolutely, all i have to do is turn it on in this yard and it has a seizure w/o any movement. Both the ace and atpro did that

Sounds like you have some experience with these phenomenon (big word for me) maybe i can figure this thing out cause im sure there are more good finds just waiting to be plucked

 

[DocBeav]

Bracelet looks exactly like one I found this year that is aluminium.....VERY lightweight.

Another idea to see if they "seeded" the yard, get a powerful magnet, put it on a string and drag it through the yard for a bit....see if anything sticks to it....

 

[WHADIFIND]

Ill try to answer 1 thru 8 and maybe you can help me determine whats going on

Okay. Lets try.

1. yes i tried to pinpoint the chatter to no avail
Sounds like air chatter

2. didnt try to hold the detector up, but that is a good idea
This would prove the above theory.

3. i used all 3 modes in pro and std and had chatter
You're talking "modes", I was referring to "frequencies". The AT-Pro has 4 separate channels. Check the book but in short, you press and hold the pinpoint button and then each time you click the sensitivity button it will change a frequency. The display will cycle through "F1, F2, F3, F4" Just let go of all buttons and you're set. Try each one to see if it cuts down on the chatter.

4. there are overhead lines but not directly overhead of the site
They just need to be near and they might be worse at certain times of the day.

5. i gotta nock the sensitivity down 3 notches for it to stop (dont you lose depth when you do this?)
You may lose some depth but if the machine is unstable due to all the chatter, you're missing targets anyway. Even shallow ones.

6. yes yes yes and definately yes, it was hard to keep up w/ the numbers
Which indicates air chatter. If they had dumped metal, like iron, you'd get all iron signals everywhere. Not chatter so much.

7. the numbers were so scattered it was hard to notch em out, i couldnt tell how many there were
See above.

8. and yes absolutely, all i have to do is turn it on in this yard and it has a seizure w/o any movement. Both the ace and atpro did that
Again, air chatter.

Sounds like you have some experience with these phenomenon (big word for me) maybe i can figure this thing out cause im sure there are more good finds just waiting to be plucked

I would change frequencies until it stabilizes as much as it can. Then, lower sensitivity until fairly stable and have at it, at different times and conditions of day/night. See if you can ground balance then go for it.

Point the detector in the air and walk around to see how that impacts the chatter. You might just have a very hot spot and the rest of the yard might be good.

Hope it helps!

HH!

Oh yeah, and about all this wonderful "experienced", "sage", "old timer's" advice? I've only been using the AT-Pro for about a year and a half. (detecting for more than 30 years off & on but, this machine? Just 1.5 years. LOL )

 

[cjon455]

I would change frequencies until it stabilizes as much as it can. Then, lower sensitivity until fairly stable and have at it, at different times and conditions of day/night. See if you can ground balance then go for it.

Point the detector in the air and walk around to see how that impacts the chatter. You might just have a very hot spot and the rest of the yard might be good.

Hope it helps!

HH!

Oh yeah, and about all this wonderful "experienced", "sage", "old timer's" advice? I've only been using the AT-Pro for about a year and a half. (detecting for more than 30 years off & on but, this machine? Just 1.5 years. LOL )

sheesh, talk about a newb, i had no idea of these frequencies lol. I guess ill have to try that and get back to ya, thanks for your input, much appreciated!!

 

[WHADIFIND]

sheesh, talk about a newb, i had no idea of these frequencies lol. I guess ill have to try that and get back to ya, thanks for your input, much appreciated!!

The frequencies may or might not help, but they're a good thing to know for options.

I'd be really interested to know if any of it helped at all.

Good luck!

HH!