Atocha gold coin pendants ?

[Unicorner]

I am working through some of my dad's estate, and he had two Gold Atocha coin pendants that I think may be authentic. His sister (Geraldine Brown) was married to Dan Fox Thompson, who was a founding member of "Real Eight, INC" Treasure company. I would like to know how to go about having these appraised.

Thanks

 

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[ticndig]

I'm no expert , and know nothing about coins BUT it seems the gold paint is flaking off?

 

[Mackaydon]

Contact the Mel Fisher Museum.

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Don in SoCal
PS: IMO, the 'coin' doesn't look real. Gold doesn't tarnish.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

They look like reproductions and the gold shouldn't be peeling, flaking or rubbing off.

 

[Unicorner]

I am working through some of my dad's estate, and he had two Gold Atocha coin pendants that I think may be authentic. His sister (Geraldine Brown) was married to Dan Fox Thompson, who was a founding member of "Real Eight, INC" Treasure company. I would like to know how to go about having these appraised.

Thanks

Update 05-01 Received word from Mel Fisher to the effect they are reproduction of non Atocha coins, based on:

Date (1711) and attached loop

I think it is possible they were made and sold to raise money for operational expenses. From what I remember from Dad's stories Uncle Dan (and his group) entered into an agreement with Mel for financing the explorations. Dad has dementia but might remember I'll ask him this week if he remembers the story on the origins of these two pieces.

 

[1637]

sorry to hear that.

 

[Ocean7]

I agree they look fake and most likely are fake.
Supposedly only 121 gold coins were found on site.

'The last Atocha gold coin ever recovered from in 2001, this will only be the 121st Atocha gold coin ever found on the Atocha site to date. Today's value is estimated to be at least $98,000, even more, if it's from a rare mint.'

GOLD AND SILVER COINS FOUND ON ATOCHA SITE!!!

Mel Fisher’s Treasures salvage vessel J.B. Magruder with newly appointed Captain Tim Meade at the helm finds an exceedingly rare Atocha gold coin on July 16, 2021, in 30’ of water. Congratulations to Captain Tim and the entire Magruder crew. The coin was found by 2nd generation treasure finder...

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Compared to 200,000 silver coins!
'The Nuestra Senora de Atocha carried over 200,000 hand stamped silver coins from mints in Potosi, Lima and Mexico City. Silver coins are referred to as “pieces of eight” and were measured in reales. Their denominations are 8 reales, 4 reales, 2 reales, 1 real, ½ real and ¼ real. An 8 reales silver Atocha coin was roughly equivalent to one month’s pay for a sailor in the 1600’s. Due to the crude hand-struck minting process, no two coins look alike.'

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But have a coin shop or gold shop look at them and give you a price. Ya just never know!

 

[ARC]

Not real.
Or should i say... not Reale.

 

[Heavygold4me]

Not real but a cool piece of family history

 

[TreaShore]

Hey OP

I figured I would add a bit to the conversation for future reference. As you know, unfortunately your pendants are not real. Spanish silver reales, or in this case gold escudos, tend to have very unique shapes as they are cut from larger ingots and sheared to weight before striking the coin by hand. All of this created their unique shape and impression (strikes). I think of each coin as a finger print.

If you look at your pair you can see they have the same shape and strike pressure, which would be insanely unlikely, but in theory possible. However, the edges appear to have a line in the center indicating the were cast in molds and not hand cut. The cast lines are created when the molten metal fills the mold a little to much and seeps into the space between both halves.

 

[Gare]

Update 05-01 Received word from Mel Fisher to the effect they are reproduction of non Atocha coins, based on:

Date (1711) and attached loop

I think it is possible they were made and sold to raise money for operational expenses. From what I remember from Dad's stories Uncle Dan (and his group) entered into an agreement with Mel for financing the explorations. Dad has dementia but might remember I'll ask him this week if he remembers the story on the origins of these two pieces.

I don't think you got word from Mel Fisher !!!

 

[TreaShore]

I don't think you got word from Mel Fisher !!!

Ouija boards could help, if you believe in that sort of thing.

 

[Gare]

Ouija boards could help, if you believe in that sort of thing.

Probably