Atocha estate sale find- words of wisdom??

[JuannyChico]

Finally found a good deal for an Atocha coin but the sale came with no paperwork. I’ve done some light reading and know it’s almost a lost cause in getting it officially recognized. No matter, I’m planning on wearing it for some time but I would love some self assurance. I know almost nothing about signs and signals towards authenticating this. I know casts of the coin are popular. Anything advice or signs that I can count on regarding this piece? It’s bought from an estate sale and weights 29 grams total, bevel 14k gold as listed. Don’t even know if that’s authentic.

Paid $450

 

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[Diggin-N-Dumps]

My grandfather has one that ended up getting stolen. That’s a great piece no matter what. You still might be able to find someone that could authenticate it. Either way, beautiful piece!

 

[jewelerguy]

I would think that without a certificate, there is no way of knowing for certain that it came from the Atocha. Personally, I wouldn't take their word for it, and as such probably wouldn't offer more than 150 for it. But that's just me.

 

[TheGreatNorth]

That holder for it is pretty custom from the looks of it. What metal is it? That would be alot of work to make a fake one... and for not that much $$. The coin appears to have the seawater corrosion... my gut is telling me you have a real one.

 

[Crazybladez]

Any which way it is a beautiful piece!

 

[apdp]

Looks typical of many Atocha coins I have seen. Many heavily corroded reale's came fro the wreck. I would say authenic and very like Atocha.

 

[A2coins]

Amazing find cool relic

 

[A2coins]

Welcome also from michigan

 

[ecmjamsit]

Looks like has been laying beneath sea level for a few hundred years. I'd say it is a real Spanish coin. Don't wear it in Spain, they might try to take it from you.

 

[Kantuckkeean]

I agree with TheGreatNorth. That bezel would take some work. It’s a long shot that the guys in the Shipwrecks forum would know more about, but you might contact the Mel Fisher store to see if they’d have a photo-catalog of all their pieces, or someone who could verify it.

Kindest regards,
Kantuck

 

[misplacedrednek]

You can purchase these on-line from Mel Fishers web site. I have a piece I bought years ago with the same type of hanger piece. Hope this helps.

https://store.melfisher.com/collections/re-creation-coins

Matt

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Beautiful piece, wear it with pride!

 

[CRUSADER]

I would think that without a certificate, there is no way of knowing for certain that it came from the Atocha. Personally, I wouldn't take their word for it, and as such probably wouldn't offer more than 150 for it. But that's just me.

Agreed, over paid, even if real which I think it is but without knowing where it came from.

 

[Reanm8er]

Beautiful Piece, Often at estate sales any document that is not negotiable for some value is destroyed. Is there any chance of finding a survivor of the family/individual? Whoever owned this surely showed it off to somebody!

Best wishes!

 

[Reanm8er]

Also welcome Juanny!

 

[RTR]

You can purchase these on-line from Mel Fishers web site. I have a piece I bought years ago with the same type of hanger piece. Hope this helps.

https://store.melfisher.com/collections/re-creation-coins

Matt

Me too.Even tho its a "copy"(made from Atocha silver ingot recovered by Fishers team) its a great piece of history.

 

[Diver_Down]

It is not Atocha. 100% certainty. It is a genuine 8 R sea salvaged piece. I will give you more reasoning and explanation this afternoon. I want to wait for others to figure it out. It is easy for those that know what to look for.

 

[Diver_Down]

Any guesses?

 

[Doubter in MD]

Any guesses?

Why guess if you can tell us?

 

[Diver_Down]

Why guess if you can tell us?

It would be nice if people wanted to learn. I only chimed in as it popped up in my sidebar. I never view/post in Today's Finds. Usually when they are moved to the Spanish Cobs section is when I offer my expertise. I'll withhold an explanation in case someone wants to make an educated guess.