Atlantis found?

[Moe (fl)]

Interesting article today about perhaps Atlantis discovery...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2255989.ece

 

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[FISHEYE]

Here it is.Decide for yourself.

 

[allen_idaho]

I'm pretty sure those are naturally formed. Just think how deep those crevases have to be to be visible.

And what about the similar formations about 200mi to the East? Check it out.

By strange coincidince though, that area is the approximate location where the Lafian was sunk in 1942. I had seen it before and thought nothing of it.

And there are other indicators of strange patterns elsewhere on the sea bed. Look at:

27 deg 42' 08.22"N, 88 deg 30' 49.19"W

31 deg 19' 35.77"N, 120 deg 16' 20.18"W

39 deg 10' 24.00"N, 125 deg 31' 29.55" W

 

[Smithbrown]

There is an explanation here:

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/...ean-image-lost-city-Atlantis-proves-sort.html

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HI: heck we found Atlantis several months ago right in here. it is a giant Caldera exactly where it is supposed to be at the pivot contact of three tectonic plates.

The following pictures were posted in TN. WE, the TN members, discovered it he hehe he.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[ropesfish]

Just a thought, but mean sea levels approximately 12,000 years ago were 75-100 meters lower than they are now according to http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png.
During the time that Plato references things might well have been radically different than we know now.

Daytona's beach would have been very wide at that time, indeed.
Does anyone happen to know of a site that shows where the coastlines would have been during the last Ice Age?

On a related archaeological note, any traces of any Ice Age coastal civilization (if such actually existed) would be far from today's shores, under a few hundred feet of water and buried under silt or other sediments.

 

[Cobe_24]

Im just curious on Real De Tayopa's reply.

You got a satellite imagery pic there of the sea.. if you remove the red and yellow circles.. how the hell can you make out an underwater natural circular formation of rocks there? lol I cant see one..

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Good evening Cobe: first those are the giant Caldera's rings, which are high mountains., not a ring of rocks.

If you are interested, go to -->

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,149487.200.html

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Cobe_24]

I cant help but to think that possibly Atlantis isn't a continent at all.. Maybe what Plato is describing is earth itself, You have your layers of rings which would make sense as the planets orbits, You have earth which is the center of the whole deal and where Plato makes reference to the pillars of Hercules. Perhaps that is just something to do with the Star Constellation of Hercules? I'm not up on the Zodiac but I know theres a constellation called Hercules.. Maybe the reason we can find or see Atlantis is because were interpreting Plato's message wrong.

The easiest way for me to explain what I interpret from Plato's writings is to quote him in sections then add my interpretation below.

Plato:
" for in front of the mouth which you Greeks call, as you say, 'the pillars of Heracles "
(Maybe speaking of the Constellation of Hercules)

Plato:
" there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together; and it was possible for the travelers of that time to cross from it to the other islands, and from the islands to the whole of the continent over against them which encompasses that veritable ocean. For all that we have here, lying within the mouth of which we speak, is evidently a haven having a narrow entrance; but that yonder is a real ocean, and the land surrounding it may most rightly be called, in the fullest and truest sense, a continent. "
(Plato could be speaking of one large continent, Which to me would suggest all the countries of our planet before they broke away and separated)

Plato:
" Now in this island of Atlantis there existed a confederation of kings, of great and marvelous power, which held sway over all the island, and over many other islands also and parts of the continent".
(The federation of kings to me are the rulers of various parts of this single huge continent, Obviously all our countries put together would be too large for a single king to rule)

Sorry if this interpretation is already in the air but if its not then theres something else for you to look at. In my eyes Atlantis is not a continent lying beneath the sea, It was the name given to the one whole continent before it broke up into all the separate countries.

Lastly Plato speaks of a flood that killed all Atlantians. We know Plato is not speaking of a time in which he is living but a time long before his, Maybe in this section Plato is referring to the Ice Age, Obviously the Ice Age wiped out mostly all living forms..

Just a thought,
Cobe

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HI: Out of the box thinking, and very good my friend, Agreed Atlantis was not a continent, but merey a circular group of islands from the rings of the giant Caldera which was submerged by the overlapping tectonic plate movement..

I would suggest reading the data that I sent to you. in it's entirety. This is covered in detail.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[wreckdiver1715]

Google refutes UK tabloid's story on Atlantis existence news

23 February 2009

A Google Earth official on Saturday denied the London tabloid The Sun's claim on the existence of Atlantis, a legendary island which Plato had described sinking into the ocean "in a single day and night of misfortune" around 9000 BC.

The Sun on Friday published pictures from Google Earth showing what resembles a city street grid on the ocean floor west of Morocco, in an area known as the Madeira Abyssal plane, about 960 km off the African coast.

But Google says the undersea grid lines spotted while browsing Google Earth's ocean maps by an aeronautical engineer from Chester in northwestern England, Bernie Bamford, are data artifacts rather than sunken streets.

"What users are seeing is an artifact of the data collection process," a Google spokesman said. "Bathymetric (or sea-floor terrain) data is often collected from boats using sonar to take measurements of the sea floor. The lines reflect the path of the boat as it gathers the data. The fact that there are blank spots between each of these lines is a sign of how little we really know about the world's oceans."

In his book Timaeus, Plato describes Atlantis thus: "This great island lay over against the Pillars of Heracles, in extent greater than Libya and Asia put together, and was the passage to other islands and to a great ocean of which the Mediterranean sea was only the harbor; and within the Pillars the empire of Atlantis reached in Europe to Tyrrhenia and in Libya to Egypt."

Plato wrote that the island was struck by violent earthquakes and floods and subsequently sank beneath the sea.

One of the Pillars of Heracles is the rock of Gibraltar, which suggests that the sea west of Morocco would be a likely place for the city to be found, if it ever existed, a historian said.

Google said the area mentioned in The Sun article reflects a mixture of bathymetric data from sonar and satellite altimetry, which provides an estimate of the ocean floor topography based on wave height. The intersection of these two data sets, which do not align perfectly, is what produces the appearance of a street grid.

Similar grid lines can be found in other parts of the ocean where the sea floor has yet to be completely mapped, such as near Hawaii.

Although Google's explanation effectively rebuts The Sun's story, the growing importance of geospatial applications like Google Earth and Google Maps for scientific, cultural, social, and security endeavors should not be discounted.

Google has released a new version of Google Earth that for the first time includes underwater rendering and historical footage.

The underwater bathymetric map allows users to drop below the surface and explore the seafloor in 3D, using public and private data from multiple sources. Mashed into the offering is also video and still images, so you can get an actual view of each spot where available.

Another new feature offered is touring, allowing users to create an easily sharable, narrated, fly-through tour just by clicking the record button and navigating through your tour destinations.

The mapping now turns up many formerly hidden objects, and people have discovered new species, hidden marijuana fields, a suspected shipwreck site, and an old Roman Villa, and Chinese submarines.

As one of Google's attorneys observed last year in the company's recently successful motion to dismiss an invasion-of-privacy lawsuit, "Today's satellite-image technology means that even in today's desert, complete privacy does not exist."

Plato's utopia, an explorer's dream
The story of Atlantis, a fabled utopia destroyed in ancient times, has captured the imagination of scholars ever since it was first described by the philosopher Plato more than 2,000 years ago.

He wrote of a land of fabulous wealth, advanced civilisation and natural beauty. Debate rages over where it might lie, if it existed at all: some say it is near Cuba, off the coast of Cornwall, near Gibraltar or in the middle of the Atlantic.

In 2002, some American researchers claim to have found convincing evidence that locates the site of the lost kingdom of Atlantis off the coast of Cyprus, reported BBC.

The team spent six days scanning the Mediterranean sea bed between Cyprus and Syria using sonar technology.

They say their discoveries match accounts of the city written by Plato.

Team leader Robert Sarmast said the walls appear to be sited on a flat-topped hill where the temples of Atlantis once stood.

"The hill, as a whole, basically looks like a walled, hillside territory and this hillside territory matches Plato's description of the Acropolis hill with perfect precision," he said.

"Even the dimensions are exactly perfect, so if all these things are coincidental, I mean, we have the world's greatest coincidence going on."

Sarmast and his team are not alone in believing they have found the lost city of Atlantis.

Other researchers have placed it off the coast of Spain, Cuba and the south west of England, as well as under the South China Sea.

In June 6, BBC came up with a report that a scientist, Dr Rainer Kuehne, may have found remains of the lost city of Atlantis.

Dr Kuehne thinks the island of Atlantis simply referred to a region of the southern Spanish coast destroyed by a flood between 800 BC and 500 BC.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

***** post Wreck diver. It tends to re-confirm that we (TN) have discovered it.

Don Jose de La Mancha