Artillery Button: What country, what time period?

[Jaichim24]

I found this button today at a site that has produced many buttons from tombacs, 1 piece flat buttons w/no back marks, 1 piece buttons with back marks, and also two piece buttons. I have found American, Canadian, and English military buttons here from the early 1800's up until the late 1800's

Can anyone tell me more about this button? It looks like a cast 1 piece flat disk button with a drilled eye shank which can date from the 18th century to the mid 19th century.

The crown sort of looks like a Spanish crown, and the pile of cannon balls I've only seen on Spanish artillery buttons, but all of the ones that come up on google search have the crossed cannons over the stack of cannon balls.

I'm hoping someone here will be able to give a positive ID and a proper name and date range.

If I had to guess this is late 1700's early 1800's.

 

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[BARKER]

Hi; It is a one piece button. I believe it is English. Date circa 1780's. Nice find. Any writing on the back ?? Can't tell from the picture. Ask CRUSADER ok. He'll set you right up. PEACE:RONB

 

[Jaichim24]

No writing on the back, I believe this button was cast.

 

[Spats]

I found a picture of a very similar button that is an early Spanish Corps of Engineers button. It looks identical, but has crossed cannons between the crown and the stacked cannonballs. The crown is identical to those found on several Spanish military buttons. Was not able to find an identical button.

 

[Iron Patch]

Try John Powell. Email at the bottom of the page.

Spanish Colonial Military Artifacts - History, Archaeology, Relics

 

[Jaichim24]

Try John Powell. Email at the bottom of the page.

Spanish Colonial Military Artifacts - History, Archaeology, Relics

Thanks for the tip IP, I had found his site but never thought to email him. Below is his initial response, some good information but not a complete ID.


Matthew, the crown appears to be either Spanish or German, but I can't find this design in any of my references. The construction is also consistent with Spanish manufacture of the 1800-1820s period, but again it doesn't match anything in my references. I'm sorry not to be able to help you with this, but I'll keep looking as I can. It's a nice find, and I'll wish you good luck in your searches!
Take care!
John P.

 

[Iron Patch]

Thanks for the tip IP, I had found his site but never thought to email him. Below is his initial response, some good information but not a complete ID.


Matthew, the crown appears to be either Spanish or German, but I can't find this design in any of my references. The construction is also consistent with Spanish manufacture of the 1800-1820s period, but again it doesn't match anything in my references. I'm sorry not to be able to help you with this, but I'll keep looking as I can. It's a nice find, and I'll wish you good luck in your searches!
Take care!
John P.

Sometimes that's how it goes, and very possible it is Spanish and obscure, or maybe even a first.... it can and does happen. It's an interesting find, so hang on to it and maybe someday you'll get an answer.