are these other possible paleo

[trevmma]

these all came from a field ,as a crow flies 2 miles away from New field I found definite clovis, what do u guys think. the complete came from Ohio river, the base and sides are ground on it , thanks

 

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[Get-the-point]

these all came from a field ,as a crow flies 2 miles away from New field I found definite clovis, what do u guys think. the complete came from Ohio river, the base and sides are ground on it , thanks

From left to right the first two are triangles the one below it has a Allen look to it. The top row 3rd one in and the rest look paleo. Last point looks like a broken quad.

 

[NC field hunter]

From left to right the first two are triangles the one below it has a Allen look to it. The top row 3rd one in and the rest look paleo. Last point looks like a broken quad.

GTP, triangles are later points aren't they? I always find woodland pieces and think they are paleo. Is that just me, or a sign of prehistory repeating itself?

 

[jamey]

looks like an old site to me,id go back often.thanks for the peek

 

[Get-the-point]

GTP, triangles are later points aren't they? I always find woodland pieces and think they are paleo. Is that just me, or a sign of prehistory repeating itself?

Yes Triangles are woodland era. Although known paleo triangles are found. The difference is manufacture and basal grinding. once you know the difference you can start to see it in the points. Like a Redstone for instance will look like a Levanna triangle except it has multiple flutes with a basal grinding. Although levannas are usually small there are examples that top out at a little over 3 inches. NC you are in a known Redstone state. The largest one I seen come out of your state was almost 5 inches. To bad it was broke and restored or it would have been worth a lot........................................Chris(GTP)

 

[trevmma]

The first one has grinding also , just weird looking point in person ,prob just a freak triangle that got ground

 

[NC field hunter]

What type is this? It has basal thinning. I always wrote it off as a guilford, but it's base is thinner than most Guilfords.

 

[NC field hunter]

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What type is this? It has basal thinning. I always wrote it off as a guilford, but it's base is thinner than most Guilfords.

Not red stone. I'm pretty sure.

 

[Get-the-point]

I believe that may be a Clovis point. It does lack the fine percussion flaking associated with Clovis blades but could be the material. It sure looks like a Clovis and that fluting does not look like thinning it is a flute.

 

[NC field hunter]

I believe that may be a Clovis point. It does lack the fine percussion flaking associated with Clovis blades but could be the material. It sure looks like a Clovis and that fluting does not look like thinning it is a flute.

I have juggled between Clovis and guilford for three years here. I have had it labeled Clovis then guilford. I say guilford because it was found on a site that I have found literally hundreds of Guilfords on. I haven't found a Clovis on this site.... Or have I?? Thanks for the input. Brightens my day to read this.

 

[Get-the-point]

I have juggled between Clovis and guilford for three years here. I have had it labeled Clovis then guilford. I say guilford because it was found on a site that I have found literally hundreds of Guilfords on. I haven't found a Clovis on this site.... Or have I?? Thanks for the input. Brightens my day to read this.

Like i said in my post it is hard to determine what it is. If it is thick then it could be a Guilford with a broken base. Since this site you found it on has a dominant Guilford period on it, i'd say the latter is likely. How thick is the point?

 

[NC field hunter]

Like i said in my post it is hard to determine what it is. If it is thick then it could be a Guilford with a broken base. Since this site you found it on has a dominant Guilford period on it, i'd say the latter is likely. How thick is the point?

I found on arrowheads.com an article about a previously unreported fluted point in Durham NC. 15 minutes from my house. I started a new thread. Check it out. I really think this is one of them. Not paleo, but a rarity!

 

[Charl]

GTP, triangles are later points aren't they? I always find woodland pieces and think they are paleo. Is that just me, or a sign of prehistory repeating itself?

As GTP indicated, triangles do appear early in the record. Here are 3 triangles from RI, all heavily ground, all erose or serrated. These points have not been found in a dated context in New England, but are found on Early Archaic sites and believed to date to the earliest Archaic, or 9000-10000 years BP. Trevmma, hope I didn't high jack your thread. I agree with GTP that those are early and some are Paleo, IMHO.