Appeasing the silver gods - what is the proper sacrifice?

[gotgot]

I turn to the "community" for ideas and perhaps to share a laugh at another's misfortune...of their own making.
A good friend of mine who I got into CHR has encountered bad juju of his own design.

About 2 months ago he was at one of his pickup banks and saw a donation box ("support local troops" is what he said it was for, at first I thought he meant a boy scout troop but it was for the military) next to the coin counter. He looked inside and saw silver change (two bucks in quarters) had been donated, most likely as the machine in the lobby rejects silver someone just tossed them in.

When he was telling me this story I interrupted at that point and said "Please tell me you made a donation before you took the change" and he said no he had no money on him. But he "had" to take the silver.

Well not only is that theft (I said you know you were on camera, you are lucky nothing happened) but I believe he has angered the silver gods. I told him that straight up and then later that afternoon talked about this with my "other" CHR cult member/friend and we agree this was very bad.
Like the Brady family taking the idol off of Hawai'i bad.

Well since then he has not found one silver coin - he hunts halves and dimes, occasionally nickels (since I am a nickel nut he has started getting into buying a box here and there) and has been completely skunked since, zippo, zilch, nada. He asked me today how he could get the monkey off his back. In the back of my mind I am laughing as he gets half boxes for me too and I have found silver each week out of those boxes, he picks first (he does not know enough to weigh the boxes and keep the heavier one for himself) but yet keeps getting blanked. Like I said earlier its been since the end of November so if its just a streak its a long-lived one.

So do I _really_ want to help him break the curse? Sigh.
Well , yeah, I mean its not a fun hobby if you don't have someone to share finds with and he is getting burned out/depressed. Plus he delivers me 2 boxes of halves each week at no cost when he comes over to visit! So I have to try to help him get back into the game.

I said first thing you need to do is go to the bank and donate into that box. He said "I did that right after the New Year I donated 5 bucks. And I am still O-fer this month."
So I said "hmmmm, maybe you sacrifice one of your kids like Abraham?"

I really think he is just on a bad streak, hell I have gone 15 boxes + without even an NIFC so its not like bad streaks don't happen. But its in his head now that he's cursed.

So I turn to the superstitious/witch doctors Masters of Argentum out there to help me create an appropriate penance. What ritual or sacrifice could be made to make amends?

 

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[AGCoinHunter]

He should have to lick every coin out of a 1k bag of halves off a coin counter (you know the really really dirty ones) and forever become a Detroit Lions fan. That should take care of his ammends.

 

[jim4silver]

Hard to believe that in this day and age any place has a "donation box" or such that is not securely locked to keep out people like your friend.

Also hard to believe the guy did not have anything to "exchange" for the silver coins, such as paper money or clad coinage, and the tellers probably would have OK'd this exchange if he asked them, especially if the guy threw in an extra dollar or so to the charity. I mean the guy is at a bank, is his account balance zero?

So based on what you said and from what I know about people who steal, the guy sounds like he took advantage of a situation he saw, and this was probably not the first time nor the last time he would do such in my humble opinion. I cannot pass "judgement" on what he should do to make amends to the silver gods. But everyone is capable of redemption I believe.

Jim

 

[ronbo22]

Send $5 to me and roll naked in the snow.

 

[clovis97]

The way I see it, the $5 he dropped in the donation box after the fact has only paid for one of the silver quarters.

Have him drop in another $15, and he should be good to go.

 

[Moneypenny]

The way I see it, the $5 he dropped in the donation box after the fact has only paid for one of the silver quarters.

Have him drop in another $15, and he should be good to go.

This was the very same thought I had, but if it was $2 face he should actually donate another $35.

Like the other penance ideas though

 

[favored papa]

First there is only one God. And he is quick to forgive. But in this life there are things one should not do, you don't hurt children, you don't hurt women, and you and you don't #&(#%^ with donations for the military.

1. The Bible says when a thief is cough he should pay back 7 times what he took. 8 silver quarters X 5.00 = $40.00 X 7 = $280.00 . If that donation can is gone, He can find and give it to the Wounded Warrior Program. If he is buying boxes he can afford it.


Or 2. Send him to a Marine unit with 8 cases of beer, when the have all had 2, stand him up in front of them and say " Marines aint spit". I steel from Marines. And let him take his woopin like a man.


The young people who dress in our uniforms, all over the globe, are not boy scouts on vacation. They are the finest we have in this country, and they have volunteered to if need be lay down there lives, and or limbs, so we can live free to CRH or MD or what ever.

Maybe the best restitution would be to spend a day at a VA hospital or a Veterans Home. And meet some of those who have given so much.

 

[SFBayArea]

When he went to the pickup bank.. he could've opened up his order box there and took out the coins to replace or make change with the silver quarter he saw. He doesn't even have change in his car to replace it? Just sounded like being too greedy to me. Just me Monday night quarterbacking.. Too late now.. he needs to join the Marines to make up for it.. HooRah

 

[joad]

I'm still haven't got past the fact that you told your friends.

 

[clovis97]

The way I see it, the $5 he dropped in the donation box after the fact has only paid for one of the silver quarters.

Have him drop in another $15, and he should be good to go.

This was the very same thought I had, but if it was $2 face he should actually donate another $35.

Like the other penance ideas though

Good point. I should have read the OP better. For some reason, I thought it said 4 quarters...so, another $35 in donation should be a good start.

 

[frankiefry]

I know this CRHing for silver can become rather adictive, but there are limits and boundries to everything. Unfortunately, this 'friend' crossed the line and used very poor judgement. Sometimes we act before thinking, and our actions come back to haunt us is many ways. I personally don't believe that this is the reason why he isn't finding any silver now, but it is certainly bringing to his attention that he acted wrongly in a situation. He needs to do a few random acts of kindness to change the energy around him and also change his ways and attitudes concerning touching/taking stuff that isn't his. : )

 

[Fredness]

favored papa is on to something:

...And let him take his woopin like a man.

But I think the math is off. I'm sure the silver quarters were presented at face value, that being said, this person should have offered $10 MINIMUM before asking if they could remove the coins. This is part of the "preparedness" mindset, that all things taken are replaced at least 5x. If you "borrow" a roll of toilet paper, you bring back 5 - drink someone else's beer, you return 5 of equal or better quality (don't be a d-bag, bring them a 6 pack ), etc.

Problem is, the tiki has already left the island - the payback is far more dire.
I vote $50 to:
Soldiers Angels
Disabled American Veterans (DAV)
or Fisher House

I have worked directly with Fisher House when I was a Casualty Assistance Calls Officer (CACO), they do great work for families of our injured troops.

 

[favored papa]

I may have gotten carried away, I could not sleep last night. A lot of those donation boxes at that time of year are to improve the Christmas of children of the deployed Service Men and Women. Thus compounding the wrong.

 

[conpewter]

I think he must go all "My name is Earl" and make a list of all the bad things he's done in his life and go around trying to make up for them.

 

[fistfulladirt]

and forever become a Detroit Lions fan.

That's harsh AGC! and funny

 

[cdickrun64]

So your friend thought that putting back $5 after taking $40 worth of silver out would get him back to "even"? He should go back and donate $80......and MAYBE the curse will be lifted. Your friend is a loser.

 

[gotgot]

So your friend thought that putting back $5 after taking $40 worth of silver out would get him back to "even"? He should go back and donate $80......and MAYBE the curse will be lifted. Your friend is a loser.

That's pretty much what my wife said when this story first broke.

Thank you for all the responses. I was looking for humorous ideas but see that my initial reaction (disgust) is shared by the audience. To be fair he has severe financial difficulties but it does not make an excuse.
If I was in that situation I would have called a co-worker or someone who lived nearby to come down and buy them out of the basket w/an additional donation. I understand that he literally did not have a dollar to his name nor a bank account not overdrawn, but that doesn't excuse immoral behavior.

One person stated they could not get past the fact I told my friends. I assume that is comment is about CRH in general as once he told me this specific story its fair game if I share it, I wasn't sworn to secrecy. Plus I was incredulous that someone would do that.

My answer is it isn't fun doing this in a silo its cool to have people in real life you share finds and experiences with. i am lucky to know two different people who enjoy coin and speculation, and if that means I no longer pull exclusively from my "territory" I am ok with that, I wasn't going to find all the silver myself anyways. In fact this one here brings boxes to me now that I showed him the way of bank ordering, so I am saving fuel each week! Reciprocity is a two way street.

Thanks everyone for the ideas both sincere and humorous.

 

[FreedomUIC]

Here is an idea.

Everytime my wife and I go out to eat, if there is a individual in uniform, be it Military, Fire or Police, I instruct the waitress/waiter
that their meal is on me and to bring me the check. Just so happened we went into Outback about a month ago and saw a trooper eating with his wife. I didn't get a good look at his face, only his uniform. The waiter brought his check over and I paid for his and his wife dinner. Went outside to have a smoke before our dinner arrived and came back to the table. The trooper just so happened to have played in several of the Softball tournaments I have thrown. Even funnier is the tournaments are about 100 miles from where we live, so to find out that he lives in my community is even better. He asked my wife if he had given her a ticket or something while I was outside. Once I came back she was explaining what he had said and all of us got a laugh out of it, she told him that my husband has done that for years, it is his way of saying thank you. Have bought three seperate meals for soldiers in that same restaurant in December. Each one came over to the table and said you didn't have to do that, I replied "Yes I do and thank you for what you are doing, enjoy the Christmas season".

That should be his pennance.

 

[favored papa]

So your friend thought that putting back $5 after taking $40 worth of silver out would get him back to "even"? He should go back and donate $80......and MAYBE the curse will be lifted. Your friend is a loser.

That's pretty much what my wife said when this story first broke.

Thank you for all the responses. I was looking for humorous ideas but see that my initial reaction (disgust) is shared by the audience. To be fair he has severe financial difficulties but it does not make an excuse.
If I was in that situation I would have called a co-worker or someone who lived nearby to come down and buy them out of the basket w/an additional donation. I understand that he literally did not have a dollar to his name nor a bank account not overdrawn, but that doesn't excuse immoral behavior.

One person stated they could not get past the fact I told my friends. I assume that is comment is about CRH in general as once he told me this specific story its fair game if I share it, I wasn't sworn to secrecy. Plus I was incredulous that someone would do that.

My answer is it isn't fun doing this in a silo its cool to have people in real life you share finds and experiences with. i am lucky to know two different people who enjoy coin and speculation, and if that means I no longer pull exclusively from my "territory" I am ok with that, I wasn't going to find all the silver myself anyways. In fact this one here brings boxes to me now that I showed him the way of bank ordering, so I am saving fuel each week! Reciprocity is a two way street.

Thanks everyone for the ideas both sincere and humorous.

My friend something dose not hold water here, how can he be broke and bring you boxes? I am in construction and things are tight to say the least. The only way I can see to CRH for me right now is to buy coins when i get paid, hunt through them and by the end of the day they are used to pay bills or buy food or gas.