Apartment Complex Bans Weapons and Firearms: No Self-Defense Allowed

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Apartment Complex Bans Weapons and Firearms: No Self-Defense Allowed

If “firearms and weapons” ban is implemented, Infowars predicts complex will be “the place to rob.”

Kit Daniels
Infowars.com
August 7, 2013

A Colorado apartment complex has sent out a letter to all tenants (and future disarmed slaves) stating that starting October 1, “firearms and weapons are prohibited” from the complex.
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Retired Marine Art Dorsch, 77, contacted 9News in Castle Rock, Colorado after receiving the “updated community policies” notice which turns his fine adobe into a “victim disarmament zone.”

“I’m a hunter. I’m a licensed conceal and carry person,” Dorsch said to the news channel.

That didn’t matter to the apartment manager who supposedly wants to create a mini-Chicago.

A handwritten note on the typed letter emphasizes that even handguns for licensed concealed carry are included in the ban.

“It upsets me very much,” Dorsch said.

To comply with the heavy demand, Dorsch said he may have no choice but to leave his guns with a friend 30 miles away.

Firearm bans at apartment complexes could encourage criminals to perform “home invasions” after realizing that the apartment dwellers are likely unarmed.

Violent crimes will increase as anti-gun attitudes grip Colorado, but many Coloradans are pushing back.

After Colorado Senate President John Morse introduced strict gun control legislation last spring, the “Recall Senator John Morse” gathered more signatures to remove Morse from office than he even received in votes for his election.

“It’s pretty amazing,” said Paul Paradis, owner of Paradise Sales Firearms in Colorado Springs. “You think he might have ticked off some of his constituents?”

Colorado recently banned magazines that hold more than 15 rounds, which effectively prevented gun shops from selling rifles that typically use 20 and 30 round magazines.

“We can sell the gun, but we won’t be able to sell the magazine with it, so what’s the point?” gun store manager Richard Taylor said to the Denver Post.

Several northern Colorado counties even recently proposed seceding from Colorado and forming their own state in response to such state gun control legislation among other things.

“Northern and Northeastern Colorado and our voices are being ignored in the legislative process this year, and our very way of life is under attack,” said Weld County Commissioner Sean Conway.

Unfortunately an “unarmed slave” mentality is spreading beyond legislation as evidenced by Oakwood Apartments’ new “community policy.”

The complex is managed by Ross Management Group, with a claimed “solid reputation with Finance Authorities, tax credit investors and the Department of Housing and Urban Development.”

The management company operates multiple apartment complexes around the Denver area.

Castle Rock, approximately 30 miles south of Denver, has a population of nearly 50,000.

This article was posted: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 at 12:00 pm

Tags: domestic news, gun rights
 

If there is a lawsuit over this, I'd bet the apartment management company will lose. That law is definitely unconstitutional. You can't deny people a place to live because they won't sacrifice their rights. That would be no different than denying them access because of their color, or religion, etc.
Jim
 

whew.

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private property is private.
the land lord is not denying people housing, they are saying NO WEAPONS>>>you choose to live there or not...

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umm m I'm thinking much like Tnet a private business can make it's rules. Don't like the private property rules?? move on

any argument to that?
 

Law would never pass a court challenge..... It could be a gold mine for the first person to sue under it..... "I was assaulted and my injuries are the result of the apartment management company not allowing me to defend myself".... I am seeking $10,000,000 in damages".....

If you have a conceal carry permit you can legally carry and their rule does not over ride that right, at least in the state of Florida...... I can carry my concealed firearm legally in any building even if it says no guns allowed as long as the building is not part of the buildings restricted by law.... Walmart, kmart, Sears, Disney World Joes Crab Shack, makes no difference....
 

T_H does that mean if I come to your house and you are wary of my feelings towards you I can carry a loaded weapon no matter your feelings? on your own property?
 

property rights are overruled by gun rights?
 

public property is a whole different animal, private property is private .
YOu come on my land you do what I want. or leave
 

T_H does that mean if I come to your house and you are wary of my feelings towards you I can carry a loaded weapon no matter your feelings? on your own property?

Jeff, No I can tell you to get off my property and you are required by law to to leave, if you don't then maybe I feel threaten and I can persue other recourses.....

I can legally carry anywhere the law says I can legally carry, but I or you can not refuse to leave if told to leave....

Example.......... I carry in walmart and while leaning over clerk sees my pistol and management tells me to leave. I can argue, but I can not refuse to leave, if I do then I am guility of criminal trespass or armed criminal tresspass....

The sign on their door saying "no guns allowed" does not make it illegal to carry on the premise by law, but refusing to leave when ordered by management is a violation of the law....

As I said many times, I carry 95%+ of the times I leave home..................
 

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good, that's what I thought. No one will tell me what can happen on my property!! ( except maybe my wife)
 

And what is the penalty for shooting someone that broke into my apartment where the apartment owners didn't want me to have one? Eviction? BFD................beats death!
They can write all the rules they want, none will be enforced like a law. If I break a rule, the law could care less.
 

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If I ever move into those apartments I'll be the biggest surprise to anyone wanting to break into my place. Can't wait to hear, "Hey, youse ain't sposed to has a gun sucka". :)
 

I bet the landlords rules dont say anything about bigbore air rifles.:laughing7:
 

Law would never pass a court challenge..... It could be a gold mine for the first person to sue under it..... "I was assaulted and my injuries are the result of the apartment management company not allowing me to defend myself".... I am seeking $10,000,000 in damages".....

If you have a conceal carry permit you can legally carry and their rule does not over ride that right, at least in the state of Florida...... I can carry my concealed firearm legally in any building even if it says no guns allowed as long as the building is not part of the buildings restricted by law.... Walmart, kmart, Sears, Disney World Joes Crab Shack, makes no difference....

When did Florida change the laws? I lived there a couple of years ago with a conceal permit, and you CAN NOT carry your weapon into any federal building, like a court house or a bank, or any place that sells alcohol for consumption on the premisses like a bar. You Might want to re-read where you can carry in Florida again
 

umm m I'm thinking much like Tnet a private business can make it's rules. Don't like the private property rules?? move on

any argument to that?
I agree. The problem with that is that the government has overruled that concept when you are a business. If it's your home...no problem. But if you are in the business of renting housing there are rules you can't break. Like you can't deny a renter because they are colored...any color. or because they practice a homosexual lifestyle (in many places now), or because they are Muslim. All of these because they violate the constitution. Same goes with the gun ban, and for the same reason.
Like it or not, when you're in business the rules have been changed. Do I agree with the changes...no. IMHO it's just what you said. But, that's not the way the law rules it. I think the non-discrimination thing should only be applied to the way governments treat citizens. Individuals should always have the right to discriminate. Doing it on the basis of the aforementioned reasons might be stupid, but it still should be a right.
People won't obey an immoral law. Obviously there are millions of cases of discrimination taking place every day...for a multitude of reasons, and by every race, religion, sex, origin, you name it.
Jim
 

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When did Florida change the laws? I lived there a couple of years ago with a conceal permit, and you CAN NOT carry your weapon into any federal building, like a court house or a bank, or any place that sells alcohol for consumption on the premisses like a bar. You Might want to re-read where you can carry in Florida again

Jeff, you may want to reread what I wrote...

Law would never pass a court challenge..... It could be a gold mine for the first person to sue under it..... "I was assaulted and my injuries are the result of the apartment management company not allowing me to defend myself".... I am seeking $10,000,000 in damages".....

If you have a conceal carry permit you can legally carry and their rule does not over ride that right, at least in the state of Florida...... I can carry my concealed firearm legally in any building even if it says no guns allowed as long as the building is not part of the buildings restricted by law.... Walmart, kmart, Sears, Disney World Joes Crab Shack, makes no difference....

I can also carry in places serving alcohol, as long as the bar is separated from the restaurant or food section by a rope, booth, or some kind of barriers, even plants serve as a barrier.
 

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Well, my latina lawyer(and constant companion) is laughing. First of all, pretty much every apt. lease in Texas has a couple paragraphs about guns and ammo, but say something to the effect that no weapons will "be displayed" on the property. Secondly, how do you enforce it(Colorado)? Mgmt. can enter your apt. in an emergency, but are forbidden by law(everywhere) from searching it. That has been upheld by many court cases. So the folks in Colorado are safe and secure and if there privacy is violated, they will be apt. house owners. This is the short version, you didn't want to sit through the long form. I didn't understand most of it...
 

the first person to be --raped , robbed or injured or have a loved one killed at that place that lived there "pre gun ban"and that owned guns should sue the hell out of the owners --saying that they were forced to "disarm / not be able to protect themselves" to be able to continue to live there.

personally I'd move the hell out of it -- having a "known" gun free zone like that is like having a "rob me" bullseye painted on you if you live there.
 

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See the constitution only applies to goverment agencies or land owned and operated by government agencies. If it is owned or operated by a private person then they can create any rules they shall wish to. That's why the TSa is being taken over by a private company, so they can do more thorough searches. But if someone comes into your home and you tell them no that means no. If you own a rental and you say no foul language then that's the rule. If they say no American flags, guess what they can evict you. If u don't believe me on that one move to most housing controlled community. But everyone needs to releaize the constitution only applies to the government!!! That's it
 

Jeff, No I can tell you to get off my property and you are required by law to to leave, if you don't then maybe I feel threaten and I can persue other recourses.....

I can legally carry anywhere the law says I can legally carry, but I or you can not refuse to leave if told to leave....

Example.......... I carry in walmart and while leaning over clerk sees my pistol and management tells me to leave. I can argue, but I can not refuse to leave, if I do then I am guility of criminal trespass or armed criminal tresspass....

The sign on their door saying "no guns allowed" does not make it illegal to carry on the premise by law, but refusing to leave when ordered by management is a violation of the law....

As I said many times, I carry 95%+ of the times I leave home..................

If you carry a gun into a posted store in ohio your in some trouble. It's a felony here, if you refuse then they have the right by law to treat you as hostile, and the cops will treat you as the same. Also it's disrespectful and gives gun owners a bad look. Why? Because its clearly posted and you willing commit that crime. A store is not "public" property but private that you allow someone to enter and use. I k ow I'm a business owner. But if someone tells you to leave you do, don't be disrespectful it hurts everyone in the end.
 

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