Anyone recognize or could date this photo

[Ihatepoisonivy]

 

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[TNGUNS]

Just a guess based on other photos I have seen would be the 1870-1880's time frame. I have a bunch of old pics and tintypes that I have dated and just basing on those.

 

[jarocki]

With the facial hair I am thinking 1865-1875.

 

[bountyhuntergirl86]

I agree...

 

[Mackaydon]

1880s based on this example of clean upper lip and chin type beard: State Library of Massachusetts: A Celebration of Facial Hair in the Legislature
Don....

 

[Limitool]

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Looks like my Uncle Bob... He borrowed $100.00 from me last Thanksgiving right after this photo was taken and we haven't seen him since. Watch'em close he's slick....

(Really don't know.... but I too also have some old ones like this also. Always makes me wonder there age also.)

 

[Thommy]

I agree, immediate post-Civil War or even late CW. The "clean upper lip" is more of a late 1850's thing. See Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain before and after the War.

With the facial hair I am thinking 1865-1875.

 

[texasvarmit]

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one thing that could help date the photo, is what type of photo is it....meaning is it a "carte de viste" (size of a baseball card and on thin cardboard) or a "cabinet card" size, as cabinet cards are typically about 3x7 in size and on a bit heavier cardboard and have the photogs name and city on the bottom. Or could it possibly be: a "tintype" or a photo on glass or copper plate?

Perhaps you don't have the original and can not answer the above questions, but if you have the original photo and can answer what the photo is on (material and size) that could help date any old photos.

As for a guess, I would agree it appears post civil war from the "Burnside" type side burns on the mans face. The black flat necktie/wrap is fairly formal and seen more in early pre civil war photos however. The striped vest under the frock coat makes it appear he was wealthy/well heeled.

 

[Helix]

What is the photo made of? Is it made of a heavy almost poster board type material? Or does it feel heavier, like a thin metal plate. How the photo was made should help you date it pluse the style of dress. Im thinking daguerreotype or tin type. It looks like an older photo to me, possibly 1850's even.

 

[texasvarmit]

poisonivy,
the following photo is an ambrotype (photo on glass which is typically found in a hard case to prevent breakage) and ambrotypes typically date 1854-1865: (note the no facial hair and dark black coat and flat black necktie wrap, and upright collar shirt)

 

[Ihatepoisonivy]

It is a baseball card size on thin piece of cardboard material, it was in a box with tons of old photos and some on like a tin plate... This one caught my eye, looked civil warish...great feedback , thanks everyone!

 

[texasvarmit]

It is a baseball card size on thin piece of cardboard material, it was in a box with tons of old photos and some on like a tin plate... This one caught my eye, looked civil warish...great feedback , thanks everyone!

that sounds like a CDV (cartes de viste) which typically date around civil war era (1854 to 1905 latest), and depending on the type of cardboard, thickness, and what the corners of the cardboard look like, can date it more accurately. Very thin cardboard is earlier, thicker cardboard is later. Also if there is any printed border on the cardboard around the photo.

I am assuming there is no printing on the cardboard or you would have mentioned it. CDVs from the civil war 1861-65 from Union states typically have a tax stamp on the back (looks like a postage stamp).

the pix on the tin plate, are called "tintypes" in the USA typically. tintypes 1856-1930, but generally around 1860-1880 era when cheap /popular. (they are also called melainotypes and ferrotypes)

 

[texasvarmit]

poisonivy,
Pardon the "squashed photo" but the forum changes the proportion of the photos below, all are baseball card proportions....

some pointers on CDV photographs, examples all CDV:


sometimes the back of the CDV photo has photographer name and location which in this case gives me a date via the photog was in business in 1890:


the following is an "early" CDV as evidence by the lines around the photo and the SQUARE corners of the backing and thin cardboard, but what makes it interesting is that is evidently a COPY of an even older photograph, perhaps an "dagguerotype" photo or ambrotype, as the clothing the man is wearing and the apparent copy from the surroundings:


this is another OLD CDV as evidence by the lines around the photo, the square corners, thin cardboard. This photo by the famous Brady studio in Washington DC and is my George Custer "look alike" guy:


the following CDV has the Burnside type sideburns like your photo, has the lines around photo, square cornes, but cardboard is a bit thicker, I guess date around 1875 or so:

 

[TheCoinKid]

Alvarado, Texas? Just a few miles from where I grew up.

 

[Ihatepoisonivy]

Here is the back of the picture info...

 

[The Patriot]

as others guessing...late 1880's...just love old photographs...amazing

 

[bountyhuntergirl86]

Cool back

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