✅ SOLVED Anyone ID this?

[joesdigs]

Hey guys.. Hoping you can shed some light on this piece.. Brass plate decorated. Possibly a photo frame? Era? Thank you all

 

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[GMD52]

Looks like a back to a frame that a tintype, or daguratype would have been mounted in.

 

[tennessee digger]

I agree with GMD52, that's what it looks like to me.

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Could have been also were a mirror was attached too.

 

[bigfoot1]

perhaps a manufactures emblem.It would first be screwed to item(tea box etc)then mfg name,model etc glued on top.This cigar box shows theory

 

[surf]

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Hello Joe,

As GMD has suggested, it looks like a component for framing a daguerreotype, or tintype photograph. there seems to be objects (a cap, high button shoe, tomahawk?) in the corners. Perhaps for a boy... What size is it?

 

[joesdigs]

Yes defenitley a cap and a boot.. The cap reminds me of the old style jockey caps... Not sure on the others... It's about 4inces x 2...

 

[joesdigs]

Very similar.. Was def a one piece with a stand connected at the back

 

[CC Hunter]

Actually I am quite certain this item is a Victorian period fashion belt buckle, that originally had a center piece attached. The belt loop and hook was likely soldered on the back, and now separated.

As a collector of 19th Century dagurreotypes, ambrotypes, and ferrotypes, I have never seen a photo case resembling this item. The early photograph frames were usually encased in a protective covering, much like a small book, comprised of material such as theromoplastic or gutta percha, with a gilded brass outline frame inside.

CC Hunter

 

[joesdigs]

Ahhhhhh like this ?

 

[BosnMate]

Doesn't look heavy enough to me to be a belt buckle, more likely a picture frame like the ones that have been posted. Perhaps the tin type image was directly in the oval?

 

[surf]

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[HutSiteDigger]

Those two holes on the artifact is why i think a mirror attached too it, I have seen similar artifacts before with a mirror. Wonder what those two holes were holding down. CCHunter may be on to something though.

 

[CC Hunter]

Doesn't look heavy enough to me to be a belt buckle, more likely a picture frame like the ones that have been posted. Perhaps the tin type image was directly in the oval?

Thin rolled brass, with stamped designs, were in fact very popular for fashionable belt buckles during the 19th Century. Personally I've seen numerous examples, and even some rather similar to the one posted here.

We may note as well, the corner details (cap, boot, etc.) are best oriented with the item displayed with the longest sides horizontal, rather than vertical. Photo frames on the other hand, are typically displayed with the oval and/or rectangle in vertical fashion.

CC Hunter

 

[CC Hunter]

I'm not quite certain what other details are in the two corners top and bottom, left side of my attached photo on the posted item. These could provide additional clues. My hunch is this item may be a belt buckle that originally displayed a sporting event style motif, such as the very popular British 19th Century Cricket Buckles.

Note the many examples in the link provided, including even ones with boots and caps.

Cricket Buckles

Notice as well, how thinly stamped many of these buckles are, depicting Cricket Game designs and motifs.

CC Hunter

 

[bigfoot1]

is the shoe a roller skate?

 

[joesdigs]

The shoe does remind me of a roller skate but I doubt it... Seems more like a ladies boot.. Or a boot anyway.. I'll see if I can post more close ups... One corner is too with to see

 

[joesdigs]

Here are some pics... It 2 shoes or boots bottom left and right top left belt? Top right cap? I think it's got something to do with horse racing.. The cap reminds me of the old style jockey caps?

 

[joesdigs]

Jockey cap of old

 

[surf]

I'm not quite certain what other details are in the two corners top and bottom, left side of my attached photo on the posted item. These could provide additional clues. My hunch is this item may be a belt buckle that originally displayed a sporting event style motif, such as the very popular British 19th Century Cricket Buckles.

Note the many examples in the link provided, including even ones with boots and caps.

Cricket Buckles

Notice as well, how thinly stamped many of these buckles are, depicting Cricket Game designs and motifs.

CC Hunter

Hey CC,

I have come around to your way of thinking. Man, it's been a hot minute since I've seen some cool cricket buckles. The Australian bottle diggers sometimes find them, and I think one was found on the East Coast US a few years ago. But my impression was that they were of a heavier gauge, than Joe's appears...