Anyone good with old gold makers marks ?

[CASPER-2]

found these 2 rings this week
both are old gold found in waters of an old beach that goes back to the 1800's
one looks like a horseshoe with a spike thru it (I found an old gold years ago with similar mark)
the other looks like a fist/hand with 2 crossed arrows in its grasp

 

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[CASPER-2]

 

[theblackprince]

Hi Casper... I was detecting at a 1740's house in Eastern Mass. last Saturday and I found a gold ring with the same fist/arrows mark. I'm also trying to find out the maker. Have you had any luck with the ID?

 

[DLSpecialties]

crossed arrows in fist hallmark search

found these 2 rings this week
both are old gold found in waters of an old beach that goes back to the 1800's
one looks like a horseshoe with a spike thru it (I found an old gold years ago with similar mark)
the other looks like a fist/hand with 2 crossed arrows in its grasp

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I am also researching this hallmark on a 14kt gold victorian style bohemian garnet antique ring. Have either of you had any success in finding out more information about this crossed arrows in fist marking?
Diane

 

[soames]

Just wanted to know if you've ever discovered anything about the jeweler's mark with the two arrows. I also have a small gold ring with a garnet with the same mark. Thank you.

 

[Breezie]

Have you tested the rings for gold content or are they plated?

Nice finds
Breezie

 

[sutphin]

HEY GHOST COOL RING.

 

[trikikiwi]

I've searched for a while for both marks - without luck, so far.

The first mark appears to be a horseshoe with a riding crop.
It also has a rectangular notch to its left.

Is that remains of glue or solder in the right of the notch?
Maybe the notch held a small insert with the maker's name?

 

[jyt2017]

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[8Reales]

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CASPER-2 this piece is a Shafer & Douglas ring. Late 19th century