✅ SOLVED Anybody have any ideas what this item might be? (Civil War Era I Think)

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Interesting, and maybe the center piece of some type of buckle. Someone should know the answer.

Judging by the looks it appears to be stamped brass and not pewter.
 

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Iron Patch said:
Interesting, and maybe the center piece of some type of buckle. Someone should know the answer.

Judging by the looks it appears to be stamped brass and not pewter.
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That's a great suggestion, IP ~ I'll bet that's what it is. I will certainly follow up on that idea. Thanks!
 

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It looks to me as if it was gold plated...
 

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Very neat find. I agree it is stamped brass, and may be the top portion of a lid to a cap box (cap and ball) ?


p.s. the fifteen stars in the design would have placed it around War of 1812 period or earlier, as might the serpent neck eagle
 

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Thanks all for your thoughts . I think, too, that it is probably brass.
 

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I checked Kerksis last night, and though admittedly incomplete as virtually every known source is, there is not an example of this object. I still think it's a top to a small tin where the skirt has fallen away at the solder joint. Carefully looking at the reverse you'll see spots where it is rough; as well, the die that made it stamped down the outer-most perimeter of the piece on the reverse (which may acccomodate a skirt) which is the opposite proceedure you'd see if this was a mounted plate encompassed by a backing. It would be too early (15 stars) for percussion caps, but it could have held a number of other things for rifle or pistol, or even cheap snuff maybe. It's a very cool find, that's certain.
 

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johnnyi said:
I checked Kerksis last night, and though admittedly incomplete as virtually every known source is, there is not an example of this object. I still think it's a top to a small tin where the skirt has fallen away at the solder joint. Carefully looking at the reverse you'll see spots where it is rough; as well, the die that made it stamped down the outer-most perimeter of the piece on the reverse (which may acccomodate a skirt) which is the opposite proceedure you'd see if this was a mounted plate encompassed by a backing. It would be too early (15 stars) for percussion caps, but it could have held a number of other things for rifle or pistol, or even cheap snuff maybe. It's a very cool find, that's certain.
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Thanks Johnnyi ! I hope to go get more photos soon and maybe I can get more information as well.
 

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Is it my eyes or is this thing concave? And, is that a pouch attached to the beginning of the banner at the top? Also, I count 15 stars. Is there any significance to that number? One more thing I just noticed; the motto reads "Pluribus Unum" The "E" is missing. I bring all of this up in hopes it will lead to an identification.
 

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Is it my eyes or is this thing concave? And, is that a pouch attached to the beginning of the banner at the top? Also, I count 15 stars. Is there any significance to that number? One more thing I just noticed; the motto reads "Pluribus Unum" The "E" is missing. I bring all of this up in hopes it will lead to an identification.
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I will let you know soon.
 

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Here is a better photograph. It is brass, it is slightly concave, although I don't think it's by design. It does say E Pluribus Unum , although the E is worn a bit.
 

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OK. I can see clearly now. What I thought was a pouch is part of the banner. This is a very interesting piece and I hope you get a proper ID on it. However, I have nothing more to add. It has me stumped.
 

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I don't know if this has any bearing on your piece but a little research revealed the following in regards to the American flag:


  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
    [*] Act of January 13, 1794 - provided for 15 stripes and 15 stars after May 1795.
    [*] Act of April 4, 1818 - provided for 13 stripes and one star for each state, to be added to the flag on the 4th of July following the admission of each new state, signed by President Monroe.    [/FONT]
 

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fyrffytr1 said:
OK. I can see clearly now. What I thought was a pouch is part of the banner. This is a very interesting piece and I hope you get a proper ID on it. However, I have nothing more to add. It has me stumped.
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Has me stumped. too! Thanks for your thoughts and efforts! :thumbsup:
 

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Congrats on getting your piece IDed. And kudos to Johnnyi for doing it. I have a small request and that is; could link to the site this came from be posted? I tried going to fvstore.com but couldn't find this piece.
 

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