Anybody Found any Buttons Like These?

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Button 1

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Button 2

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Button 3

Ive Dated These to the 1820-30's but I Was hoping somebody has found these buttons in better condition, it would be great to see a picture of a better example with clear back marks or if somebody could tell me who the maker was
 

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> Anybody Found any Buttons Like These?
> Ive Dated These to the 1820-30's but I Was hoping somebody has found these buttons in better condition, it would be great to see a picture of a better example with clear back marks or if somebody could tell me who the maker was.

Your button #1 is a solid-cast brass 1-piece button, with no "read-able" backmark, so there's no way to know who manufactured it. All I can tell you is, being a solid-cast brass 1-piece with a "floral" emblem, it was most likely made sometime between the very late 1700s and about 1835. After that time, solid-cast buttons fell out of favor due to the advent of much easier-to-manufacture (and thus, cheaper) stamped brass 2-piece buttons. The statistical odds favor it being made in Britain rather than in the US.

Your button #2, having a backmark with the British-English spelling of the word "colour" means it was made in Britain. Having a backmark containing indented (not raised) lettering, AND a British-English word indicates it it was made sometime between about 1810 and 1825. Because its backmark says only "Extra Quality" with no maker/dealer's name or even initials, there's no way for us to know who manufactured it. Therefore all I can tell you is the country it was made in and when it was made.

Your button #3 LOOKS LIKE what is called a Jacksonian button... which is a flat 1-piece stamped brass button that has a separately made (and applied) brass ring encircling the rim of its 1-piece brass body. I emphasized "looks like" in all-caps because in actuality it is not a Jacksonian button. The fact that it has a an all-brass front and an iron back proves it is actually a 2-piece button, instead of just a 1-piece brass disc with an applied brass rim-ring. It is a very rare variation... an "imitation" Jacksonian button. I'd say it dates from the middle-1830s or a little bit later.
 

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Your button #1 is a solid-cast brass 1-piece button, with no "read-able" backmark, so there's no way to know who manufactured it. All I can tell you is, being a solid-cast brass 1-piece with a "floral" emblem, it was most likely made sometime between the very late 1700s and about 1835. After that time, solid-cast buttons fell out of favor due to the advent of much easier-to-manufacture (and thus, cheaper) stamped brass 2-piece buttons. The statistical odds favor it being made in Britain rather than in the US.

Your button #2, having a backmark with the British-English spelling of the word "colour" means it was made in Britain. Having a backmark containing indented (not raised) lettering, AND a British-English word indicates it it was made sometime between about 1810 and 1825. Because its backmark says only "Extra Quality" with no maker/dealer's name or even initials, there's no way for us to know who manufactured it. Therefore all I can tell you is the country it was made in and when it was made.

Your button #3 LOOKS LIKE what is called a Jacksonian button... which is a flat 1-piece stamped brass button that has a separately made (and applied) brass ring encircling the rim of its 1-piece brass body. I emphasized "looks like" in all-caps because in actuality it is not a Jacksonian button. The fact that it has a an all-brass front and an iron back proves it is actually a 2-piece button, instead of just a 1-piece brass disc with an applied brass rim-ring. It is a very rare variation... an "imitation" Jacksonian button. I'd say it dates from the middle-1830s or a little bit later.

You never cease to amaze us with the amount knowledge you possess my friend. :notworthy:

I can't even remember what I had for dinner last night! :laughing7:

Dave
 

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You never cease to amaze us with the amount knowledge you possess my friend. :notworthy:

I can't even remember what I had for dinner last night! :laughing7:

Dave

So true, amaze might be an understatement. He himself may be a "Banner Find" on T-Net. I'm just saying....
 

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Congrats on the old buttons. Treasure Net has many knowledgeable people and TheCannonballGuy is right up there with the best of em.
 

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Fantastic info cannonball guy thank you, I know two of mine are too far gone to read the back mark I was hoping someone had found one in better condition where the back mark was clear. I’m trying to get every scrap of info on my site that I can. I’m fairly certain these buttons wound up in native hands but it would be great to know where they were coming from
 

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