Any watch experts?

[nhbenz]

Nice non-dug chronograph. Labeled Abercrombie & Fitch on dial (I know this is the retailer, not manufacturer). I'm fairly certain the movement is Valjoux, but I can't find an exact match anywhere online. Movement marked 17 Jewels, which I understand the purpose of. I simply can't place what model number the movement is I find some that are REALLY close, but not exact. Why? :P Also I know its 1940's-1950's... any more precise date would be appreciated? Case # 416155. Thanks.

 

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[mojjax]

I couldn't find it in my wristwatch book . Those Chrono's go for lots of $$ . They do sell vintage A&F cataloges on ebay from the 40's And 50's , it may be in one of them . I hope some one can give you more info ! ...........Any way I bumped it !

mojjax

 

[emtrescue]

It looks like a 22 or a 71. The picture on the page is the same (it's a 22 according to the label) but I think it depends on whether or not it has an hour counter.



http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&Valjoux_22

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&Valjoux_71

Just my guess as I am no expert in anyway......

Oh, and here -

http://www.onthedash.com/priceguide.shtml

 

[nhbenz]

Mojjax, thanks for the bump. Its frustrating when we can research others' stuff effectively, but not our own stuff . EMT, thanks for those links, I think these my solve my frustration. -Ben

 

[rwsnc]

I have a small collection of current automatic watches, 3 of which have Valjoux 7750 automatic chronograph movements. I've been trying to find out which movement you have.

How do you know that the mechanical movement is a Valjoux? If it's inscribed on the movement, is anything else, written anywhere?

 

[nhbenz]

Thanks rwsnc for your efforts. My assumption is mostly based on the close similarities to the Valjoux movements I've found online. Also A&F did sell many watches with Heuer movements, so I'm hopeful that that's what this is. The only other markings are "Unadjustable", but then marks which seem to be for adjustment. And A&F markings which include "Switzerland" (which can't hurt).

 

[rwsnc]

Thanks rwsnc for your efforts. My assumption is mostly based on the close similarities to the Valjoux movements I've found online. Also A&F did sell many watches with Heuer movements, so I'm hopeful that that's what this is. The only other markings are "Unadjustable", but then marks which seem to be for adjustment. And A&F markings which include "Switzerland" (which can't hurt).

It's hard to tell from the picture. If you could, email me a larger, clearer picture.

I think I see a regulating arm, which means it probably is adjustable (obviously).

 

[emtrescue]

http://www.onthedash.com/movements.shtml



Some better pics and a pretty decent sight also to go along with ranfft.

 

[nhbenz]

Is this one any better? I thank all involved for helping me solve this. I've pulled out a lot of hair trying to figure it out.

 

[rwsnc]

Unfortunately, I just can't see much more detail with that picture. I think it's safe to say that it's a Valjoux movement. The regulating lever is the same type that's used in my Valjoux movements.

I'll keep looking.

Thanks, emtrescue, for the link.

Neither of those pictures is much better. They're still pretty small. You might be able to email me a larger file.

 

[rwsnc]

Does this look like it? By the way.. the "Unadjustable" on your movement, might say "Unadjusted".

valjoux 71 (shown in Abercrombie & Fitch Seafarer, early 1950's)

 

[nhbenz]

You're exactly right! I wish my camera could take such crisp pictures. Thank you. There are only very minor differences, but this is clearly the same movement. Thanks for your time!

 

[rwsnc]

Credit to emtrescue.. He got it earlier and supplied a good link.

Anyway... that's a good movement. Don't know if it's working or not, but I'd take that to a reputable watchmaker and get an estimate on getting it restored.

By the way.. emtrescue.... Are you an EMT on an ambulance squad? I was an EMT on a volunteer rescue squad... many years ago. If you are.. keep up the good work. If your not, don't pay any attention to this note.

 

[emtrescue]

Now look at the price guide I posted originally - ummm Section "B" I believe and congrats.


I work full time at it (the EMT thing) Been doing it for 15 years, have worked in TN, VA, FL, and Montana on the Northern Cheyenne Indian Reservation. I actually work the rescue side of it. I'm on a single manned first response/extrication truck. So I get to go play EMT and go back to my station. I don't like working in a box for very long.

 

[rwsnc]

Well... reach around and give yourself a pat on the back.... You certainly deserve it.

 

[rwsnc]

Now look at the price guide I posted originally - ummm Section "B" I believe and congrats.

I think that price guide is for the vintage Heuer, (later to become Tag Heuer) movements, unless I missed something.

I don't think the Valjoux movements were that valuable, but they weren't cheap.

 

[nhbenz]

Thanks EMT! Both for your ID help and for your service to the world. My life was once saved by folks in your profession, so I can't put into words how important your work is.

 

[emtrescue]

B ($1,800 to $2,200)
B Three-Register Chrono --
1940's or 50's Heuer or Abercrombie & Fitch
Valjoux 71 or 72
SPY=20
pre-Carrera, so no model name on the dial; beware of the fakes, as no-name chronos become Heuers
as collectors focus on the Autavias and Carreras, these can be sleepers


No problem on both accounts. and I cant get this to post in the table format. but it's down at the bottom.