Any new developments on the State Of Florida Permits?

[bikerlawyer]

Anyone know the status on the proposed changes?

 

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[Jimi D Pirate]

This was sent to me earlier this week ... you can also find it and more info at Mel Fishers site under Salvage Law.

Below are some of the more important gains we've made since this negotiation process started:

1.All references to human remains deleted from rule.

2.All references to bottom lands survey and restoration deleted from rule.

3.Rule/permit not applicable within the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary.

4.Rule/permit not applicable to existing admiralty claims or state contracts.

5.Longer permits, 3 years.

6.Larger permit areas, 3 square miles.

7.Buffer zones reduced to 100 yards for admiralty arrests. No other buffers (500 yard buffers first proposed
deleted, buffers to channels deleted).

8.Permits in inland waters allowed.

9.Share protecting permit area with state.

10.Time limits set for Division to respond to permit requests.

11.Division can't unreasonably suspend or revoke permits. Must take into consideration unknown variables in exploring wrecks. Must notify permittee of options.

12.Prop wash deflectors allowed. 10 inch suction dredges allowed

13.Survey of permit area with emphasis on shipwreck being looked for. Do not have to survey the entire area and check all anomalies.

14.Artifacts found under an exploration permit are now included in pool of divisible artifacts recovered under the recovery permit.

15.Division and permittee to decide jointly when a recovery permit is appropriate.

16."No Interest Conveyed" deleted.

17.Distribution of materials discussed. Specifics to be in permit.

18.Some references to "completing" project deleted and replaced with "conducting" project.

19.Archaeologist doesn't have to be on board at all times. Up to permittee's archaeologist to decide.

20.Archaeologist’s time of experience cut in half.

21.No expectation of permit renewal deleted.


Jimi D Pirate

 

[aquanut]

Hey all you Treasure Hunters,
At this point, are we allowed to explore possible sites without a permit? The problem being, how are we supposed to put in our meager funds to acquire a permit if we don't even know if something is there yet? I am talking about mag and sidescan runs along with diving on anomalies. I know the Fishers have exploration permits for areas which also gives them the heads up on any claims in the future. Do we as individual citizens require a permit to search? If this is the case, what happened to our freedom to pursue happiness and prosperity?
Aquanut

 

[ivan salis]

we first have to know if anything worth while is there to know if its worth wthe effort to invest money ,time and labor in the project to start with--- running mags and side scan and sonar are all non invasive to the wreck -- before applying for a permit to check out a wreck site* --we need toi know that theres something there to apply for *-(who in their right mind wants to spend money to "blindly" search a patch of water ?-)- however once side scans and sonar and mags pick up a site --then a lookie loo type permit ( should be a very cheap or no cost one--since you look at lots of sites before you ever try recovering a "good" one) needs to be "issued" by the state once the find is turned in to them. ( the "lookie loo" permit would be for a very very basic "phyically visually inspect the site only" ) to see if you even want to check it out farther or not. --

the basic truth is this ---the state really doesn't want to deal with working on a shoestring, fly by night type hunters -- they want to deal with established known solid treasure recovery ops * --if mel fisher was trying to get going today with all the state rules and regs the way they are ,he'd be dead in the water.--the times have changed my freinds -- "the small time treasure hunter makes good "--has been legally choked to death by the "rope" of the rules.